Would you allow dogs?

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  1. PropertyInsight

    PropertyInsight Well-Known Member

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    I got an application from tenants who have 2 dogs. The property has carpet thro bedrooms and livings rooms. Would you allow dogs in the property in this case?

    My past experience is very bad because dog smell is very bad and no way to get rid of the smell.
     
  2. Peter_Tersteeg

    Peter_Tersteeg Mortgage Broker Business Member

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    I don't have a problem with them, although I agree it's not ideal with carpeted flooring. The dog also has to be appropriate to the property - a large dog in a small apartment isn't a good match.

    Tenants with pets tend to stay longer and are more willing to pay a premium rent. They know how difficult it is to find a landlord that will accept them.
     
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  3. Brady

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    I'm a yes for dogs - pending size/breed.

    And echo @Peter_Tersteeg regarding the tenants staying longer with pets.
     
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    also a yes for dogs, you're opening up the range of potential tenants, id rather have a dog in the house rather than a prolonged vacancy :)
     
  5. D.T.

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    Also a yes for dogs, or pets in general.

    70% of population has pets. To exclude that from your potential tenant pool, you're either looking at a longer wait time or a lower rent.

    The main concern landlords have with pets is damage they might do to the property, and this is a fair concern. Its mitigated by selecting good tenants to start with and advising them that they're responsible for any damage, regardless of who or what in their family has caused it. The good insurance providers also cover for pet damage these days.
     
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  6. Jamie Moore

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    I'm ok with dogs....within reason.

    At the end of the day - kids probably do more damage :eek:

    Cheers

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    No dogs or kids!
     
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  8. D.T.

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    Good luck with that :)
     
  9. Ross Forrester

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    I am ok with a dog that is fit for the property.

    So a 70kg monster dog in my townhouse? No. A 10kg dog - ok
     
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    I really don't mind people having dogs or other pets. I think refusing pets excludes too many potential tenants. If one or two dogs are obviously well cared for and the tenant has a good rental history I really doubt you'll have problems, especially if the dog is regularly groomed and well trained.
     
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    It comes down to the suitability of the property versus the size of the dog. Like D.T said majority of population have pets these days. You aren't going to put a Great Dane in a court yard.

    Just state in the agreement that the pet is to be strictly outside. ( I know this cant be watched 24/7) but if PM smells dog or sees evidence of the dog at inspections the tenant can be breached.
     
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  12. Perthguy

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    A couple with a dog like this put in an application for my recently renovated house. I politely declined:

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    Another family lodged an application with a dog like this that came with good references:

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    They moved in 2 weeks ago. They love it and the dog is very well behaved.
     
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    WOOF we need a home too!

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    I'm pro pets (within reason) too. As cited they tend to stick around longer and pay more rent, plus in some states you can request more bond - in Victoria you cannot, but if the rent is over $350pw you can request additional bond anyway.

    I think when considering pets it not only comes down to the size, but also the breed. I've had some really huge dogs in properties, but they are gentle giants that don't do a lot of anything and then some small yappy dogs that like to nip at curtains.
     
  15. Colin Rice

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    I wouldnt have an issue with dogs (or children) as long as the property is left as they found it.

    I read a while ago that there may be legislation coming to pass to not let landlords discriminate against pet ownership :eek:
     
  16. Xenia

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    Yes if they are screened. Pets should be screened for past history and behaviour because they are also a tenant
     
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    I allowed a dog in a townhouse, which has a pretty reasonable yard.

    We agreed to increase the rent and stipulated that the carpets would need to be professionally cleaned when the tenant moves out.

    There are lots of landlords that don't allow dogs - which limits the choices for the sitting tenant if they ever do want to move.

    As a result, I've got a very stable tenant.
     
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    I knocked back a Labrador once - well, I knocked back the owners.
    The house had new timber floors (big dogs can scratch a floor) and custom made built in joinery. I remembered when I was a kid we had a Labrador and over the course of one summer it demolished and seemed to mostly consume a large timber outdoor BBQ table.
    I would be okay with a smaller dog.
     
  20. MTR

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    Yes for dogs..... No for kids:p