Working out your end goal

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  1. Propertyman

    Propertyman Well-Known Member

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    Hi guys,

    I’m trying to figure how much unencumbered property (in value terms) I need to reach my end goal of $100,000 passive.

    Taking into account expenses and taxes etc does the following look correct to achieve 100,000 net per annum?
    • Have $4.2 mill in debt free property
    • Assuming a 5% rental yield will give you $210,000 per year gross
    • 30% of income goes towards expenses – rates, insurance, maintenance etc leaving you with $147,000 before tax.
    • Tax on $147,000 (using an online calculator) is $44,962 (income tax and Medicare) leaving you with the end goal of $102,038 passive per annum
    Does this look correct or am I missing something?

    Thanks in advance
     
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  2. Terry_w

    Terry_w Lawyer, Tax Adviser and Mortgage broker in Sydney Business Member

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    Using Taxcalc.com.au it seems you need around $144,000 in gross income to end up with $100,000 after tax.

    Assuming 4% yield you would divide $100,000 by 4% to give you $2.5 mil.

    So to get $100,000 income after tax you will need $2.5mil in unencumbered property that yields 4% after expenses.
     
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  3. Ross Forrester

    Ross Forrester Well-Known Member

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    Hopefully you will be structured to split that income with your spouse. So the $44k tax liability is reduced to $32,774 simply by having the same income spread over two people and not one.
     
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    Terry_w Lawyer, Tax Adviser and Mortgage broker in Sydney Business Member

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    And this could shave years off your worklife!
     
  5. Propertyman

    Propertyman Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for the replies. I didn't factor that in about income being split between two people
     
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  6. Propertyman

    Propertyman Well-Known Member

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    Our current properties are split 50% each. Looking forward, we will look to purchase in single names
     
  7. Paul@PAS

    Paul@PAS Tax, Accounting + SMSF + All things Property Tax Business Plus Member

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    If the property example had QS deductions it would have very different outcomes to one without. eg a row of industrial units has very different capital allowances to a free standing home.

    Commercial property can also be attractive as outgoings are all tenants expenses incl land tax.
     
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  8. Propertyman

    Propertyman Well-Known Member

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    Hi Paul, thanks for the reply. For the time being my focus is residential and I was trying to map out for residential. My current properties have QS deductions, but i wanted to exclude and treat as an added bonus
     
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    Paul@PAS Tax, Accounting + SMSF + All things Property Tax Business Plus Member

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    If you earn income that is taxed, you cant. It enhances earning?

    Property should always be considered in terms of capital growth also. A property yield will vary from year to year with vacancy, repairs and other issues. Given that most gross yields are less than the prevailing rate of interest a net yield of a few percentage is normal and thats without borrowings. NOBODY would invest in property unless growth was a factor.

    Also what is your horizon. Five years or twenty. Any property will change over that period of time. Property Investment Analysis software (PIA) from old somersoft site may assist.
     
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  10. Propertyman

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    Sorry Paul I didn't write that correctly. I meant that this is 30+ year plan where this would be my income - retired from workforce. In the meantime, I will continue to claim every deduction I can and will do so once I retire
     
  11. Propertyman

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    Hi Paul, thanks I'll look into the PIA software. I'm under 30 so I have a 30 year timeframe for retirement. When working out current value of future money, what discount rate would you use?
     

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