Why do some people insist on defending falsehoods?

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  1. Lizzie

    Lizzie Well-Known Member

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    I sort of agree - but the original post I was talking about very black and white situations - ie, Nobby's Beach is 100% man-made due to the building of breakwall. It did not exist before the breakwall was built and cannot be disputed under any circumstances, yet this guy was arguing against that fact
     
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    I doubt there are any people on this earth that think it is flat.
    That is a sensationalist comment.
    Goes both ways you see.
     
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    Asides from being "tongue in cheek" - and yes, there are some people who still believe it's flat - I don't understand why you think the picture of the solar system was sensationalist. It's simply to highlight that some people will argue untenable positions

    What goes both ways? This is the second comment you've made on this thread that makes no sense in the context so, please, feel free to clarify
     
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    There are absolutely many people that believe the earth is flat. They have societies, theories, conventions, etc., and they are quite serious.
    The Flat Earth Society

    But while most crackpot beliefs are harmless to the rest of us, some are not and are quite dangerous, in particular climate change denial and the anti-vax movement.
     
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    I didn't read every post in this thread, but I like to look at things as a realist. I might question why things are one way or another but I won't actually deny what it is.
    As said earlier, people don't to be wrong. I often have these conversations with my brother who is very pro-earth where I am pro-life. We don't ever argue but we discuss both sides and can both have different opinions, ones that disagree.

    Apart from your example, the fires on the East Coast over the past fortnight, many politicians and scientists have spoken about climate change, where infact fires like this have been occurring for many 100s of years. So whats the difference this time? I much rather listen to the people on the ground, but this doesn't mean others aren't correct. The firefighters that have been there for 30years.

    In the end, people need to drop their egos, have discussions and disagree but don't turn them into arguments. When I learnt how to accept that I was wrong, and that I was wrong often, my life became so much more enjoyable.
     
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    Not going to get into a "discussion" but those on the ground are saying they have never seen fires like this - not as large - not as early - not as ferocious - especially in Queensland, where it is rare to have bushfires during the "monsoon season" ... sadly the monsoon season has been getting rarer.

    But yes - this is something that cannot be proven as definitive beyond any doubt. It's the definitive examples I'm perplexed about
     
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    I went to Cairns 6 years ago for a 2 week holiday in October and it rained torrentially for 12 of 14 days.
    Regarding bushfires; only two things can cause them - lightning and humans. Before humans came along bushfires burned out of control for sometimes weeks and months until they ran out of fuel, or the wind changed direction, or it rained, or all of the above.
    Only now is that a problem, because we humans are in their way.
     
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    exactly, the earth being flat was an extreme example,

    if you did some 3 seconds of googling, youd see there are those that still think its flat,
     
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    lets not forget the people/person who thinks the bushfires are caused because of same sex marriage
     
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    Na, it was the legalising of Abortion that causes bushfires. Legalising same-sex marriage causes Autism.
     
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    Page 2 and it’s totally turned political.
    Safe space to vent your political beliefs.
    Nice work.
     
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    I might lie to others from time to time, but I try not to lie to myself at all, I'm well aware of my personal shortcomings for example.
    Truth and knowledge are something that I value greatly in my life. While I have strong opinions on most issues, I'm always open to changing my point of view, if contrary evidence comes to light.

    I'd much rather have a harsh truth than a comforting lie.

    I think that's my there is so much misinformation, it's more convenient for people to believe what they do rather than facing the truth.
     
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    I see what you did there
     
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    given how politically correct we have become, and cotton wool our kids,

    im surprised we havent abolished history in school
     
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    You're the only one but somehow you are correct!
    Majority does not rule, see!
     
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    Those that ignore history are doomed to repeat it!
    I fear that that's exactly what we're doing right now though. Politically it seems similar to the early 1930s, with the rise of popularism and xenophobia.
     
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