Whose name is the property title in (Trust)

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  1. gach2

    gach2 Well-Known Member

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    Really simple for anyone that owns a property in a trust

    Where a property is owned by a trust (lets say a discretionary trust for the example if it matters)

    What name is usually on the title?

    The trust name? I didn't believe a trust could legally hold property

    The trustee's name? This is my 'guess'

    I really doubt that it would be in the beneficiary (unless they are also the trustee)?

    So if its a trustee and if its an individual would it just state the individual's name on the title or would it also include acting as a trustee etc? Can it just be in the individual's name?
     
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    Terry_w Lawyer, Tax Adviser and Mortgage broker in Sydney Business Member

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    A trust cannot own property

    It will be the trustee that is the legal owner, usually, and their name on title.

    Trusts cannot even be recorded on title - prohibited by Real property act
     
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    gach2 Well-Known Member

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    Thanks that what I thought,

    So generally what proof is there that the individual owns it in the power of a trustee and not the individual themself other than the trust deed?
     
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    Terry_w Lawyer, Tax Adviser and Mortgage broker in Sydney Business Member

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    Covered this in
    Legal Tip 170: Proving that a Property is held in Trust Legal Tip 170: Proving that a Property is held in Trust
     
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    Paul@PAS Tax, Accounting + SMSF + All things Property Tax Business Plus Member

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    This issue often comes up with SMSFs.

    Let's say XYZ Pty trades. And is trustee for the SMSF. So who owns the property? SMSF law requires the trustee ensure title is given so a caveat to benefit the SMSF is used. Auditors may qualify the audit otherwise as the fund doesn't appear to have a clear asset title. The trustee v trust isn't permitted on title as Terry says. So a caveat is best way to declare a interest

    It isn't the sole way. SMSF limited recourse borrowings a complete reversal to that view. A issue for legal advice

    There are many ways to have a ownership interest vs title
     
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    Terry_w Lawyer, Tax Adviser and Mortgage broker in Sydney Business Member

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    I don't think a beneficiary not a discretionary trust has an interest that allows a caveat to be lodged
     
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    gach2 Well-Known Member

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