When will international borders open for Sydney?

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When will international borders open?

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  1. standtall

    standtall Well-Known Member

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    It's been 19 months since Australian borders were first closed to the world.

    Likely Sydney outbreak/vaccination progression:

    End of August - 1000 cases per day, 60% at-least one shot
    End of September - 2000 case per day, 75% at-least one shot - This will likely be the peak of Covid in Sydney as more and more people will be vaccinated.

    At this stage, we will have around 50-60k local cases already and any double vaccinated incoming travellers will be more at the risk of catching Covid once they are out of Sydney airpot than bringing it with them specially if they are tested 2-3 times at airports.

    While critical early on, keeping borders closed at great expense and inconvenience to thousands would provide no real benefit to Australia at some point.

    I think we are headed on a path where Sydney will be at par with world in terms of cases/vaccinations in a matter of months and it would become more important to isolate other parts of the country from Sydney than keeping Sydney isolated from rest of the world.
     
  2. boganfromlogan

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    Open to the filthy rich.. Now
    Open to vaccinated .. Feb 22
    Open to unvaccinated .. never
     
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  3. Lacrim

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    By my estimates, sometime in December will be the tipping point.
     
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  4. standtall

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    Agree - beyond November, almost everyone in Sydney will already be exposed to either a vaccine shot or the covid itself and keeping borders shut for 5% conspiracy theorists at a great expense to literally everyone in Australia (not just those trapped overseas) would make no sense whatsoever.

    Sydney will likely open first to the world before other Australian jurisdictions open up to Sydney.
     
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  5. standtall

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    That’s absolutely correct.

    Currently if you can book accommodation over three months plus air tickets showing at least 3 months away from Australia, you are deemed eligible to leave Australia, no problems whatsoever. A return flight to most places currently costs around $7-10k per person so if you can fork out around $20k travel costs plus another $2,5k in return quarantine costs, borders are already open for you.
     
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  6. Lacrim

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    Yeah, we'll be able to fly to Singapore and back before being let in to the GC. Go figure.
     
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  7. standtall

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    It’s quite tempting to take a one way flight out of Sydney to anywhere normal and take advantage of work from home .. flights out of Australia are quite cheap actually but the risk of getting stuck outside Australia is quite real as I don’t trust the government that they will open international borders based on science .. they will likely stuff up something with the roll out or play politics as long as possible!
     
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    It's a difficult one..... (2nd/3rd qtr 2022)

    I think that the borders will partly open first to Australian passport holders, those vaccinated and deemed eligible for work (movie stars) and foreign workers !

    Months later it could open up to vaccinated tourism.
    If you aren't vaccinated don't waste your time (or our's) applying :p

    *I wanted to say 2023, but can't face it being that long ........
     
  9. standtall

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    Borders are fully open for movie stars already - they are even exempt from travel quotas hence can buy airline tickets at normal prices.
     
  10. Lizzie

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    And then Feb before they open ... after making sure everything has settled down
     
  11. Casteller

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    As early as possible please, without the hotel quarantine for vaxed people. Or at least let me "quarantine" 2 weeks in Singapore or Bali or somewhere.
     
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    Many people who are leaving are not filthy rich. They are people who are desperate to see and help their sick / dying family. They are using every last penny they have to get tickets.
     
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    2023. State governments, and now the federal government, have demonstrated how they are unable to accept cases. As evidenced by numerous vaccinated nations abroad, they too lack the testicular fortitude to accept case rises among their vaccinated populations. Australia will just follow the herd and likely snap lockdown when cases reach levels people are riddled with fear about. The only way out of this is an acceptance that a vaccinated population is the key for a return to normal human conditions and a tolerance that, like the flu, people will get it and die. Until this mindset takes hold, we will continue to be subject government tyranny.
     
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  14. Sackie

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    Whatever date the government is indicating, add another 6 to 12 months easy.
     
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    Sadly that's what my money is on ...even worse they aren't indicating anything concrete.

    Realistically, they will drag it out to next federal elections whenever that might be.
     
  16. captain starlight

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    if COVID is still happening in large numbers next year, I wonder if Morrison will try and delay the election? I know the election has to occur, but you just never know what they may try. Don’t forget, they cancelled parliament for most of 2020.
     
  17. Casteller

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    17, not 19. Australia was open until mid-late march 2020.