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  1. Hodgo

    Hodgo Well-Known Member

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    ...800k to borrow, with $160k in the bank, plus 3 rentals worth $1.4m with $1.2m loan. And you need to buy your parents house at $400k with no rental income, but also want to keep developing?

    Develop first and delay parents place? Buy Parents place then wait? Look to increase wealth by doing subdivision and selling before buying parents place? So many options.

    What would your strategy look like, it may be completely different from mine.

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    Depends on income. If my wages were high enough and secure I'd do the lot.
     
  3. Ace in the Hole

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    Don't know why you "need" to buy your parents place, but as it will produce no rental income, if you have the choice of buying it later, that would be the best option.
     
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    Terry_w Tax and Structuring Lawyer Business Member

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    Lend your parents 20% deposit so they can get their property.

    Or

    Buy the property and rent it to them at full market value and gift them some money every now and then.

    How much do you need to develop?
     
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    If getting the parents place is not absolutely essential now, then I would keep developing to build wealth and increase my net worth, strengthen my financial position and get them a place later on. You'll also have more options then depending on the wealth you've created.
     
  6. Hodgo

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    Can only borrow 800k so can't do it all unfortunately, if I bought parents place first this would reduce loan capacity to around $450 taking some pretend rental income into consideration. $450 plus $110 (-50 for deposit) won't go very far for the next development.

    Servicing is what's holding us back. That and lack of cold hard cash :)
     
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    I had a cash injection from them to help fund our development triplex, the reward was that we buy them a house.
     
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    They can't borrow, they have no income and are 65 years old.

    We don't really know how we need yet as we don't know what to do next.
     
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    I also want to make sure I can adequately repay parents loan. Not putting anyone at risk.

    They've also waited for 2 years while we develop, I feel guilty asking them to wait a lot longer, 6 months would be fine.
     
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    Easier said than done. Parents could wait about 6 months if necessary.
     
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    Terry_w Tax and Structuring Lawyer Business Member

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    They could borrow:
    Strategy: Incorporating Parents into Property Planning Strategy: Incorporating Parents into Property Planning
     
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    Sorry, I read it as that you had to buy your parents' place for some strange reason, not that you had to buy a property for your parents.
    That's a different story then.
     
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    Very interesting. However I quote "5. Help them get jobs! So they can then qualify for finance."

    If they don't have an income how can they service a loan?
     
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    Possibly, this option can only happen if we could afford to buy and build. Not sure if that's possible. Also I don't think we afford the loan repayments.

    I'd prefer to have cash to bolster my position.
     
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    Or rather than saying I'd prefer cash, what I should say is I'm worried about funding their loan without an adequate cash supply or cash income.

    My salary is good but relying on my income is a risky position.
     
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    You could lend to them.
    This could be an interest free loan, or a nil payment till the end loan, or a market rate loan with you gifting them money to repay the loan.

    It all depends on the circumstances.
     
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    They gifted the deposit. Yes triplex is complete but not in an area they would live.
     
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    Please give me an example, remember have $160 cash. No other cash reserves and no equity available.