What percentage is considered good Capital Growth?

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  1. Investor1234

    Investor1234 Well-Known Member

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    Hi,

    I am reveiwing the performance of my properties from a capital growth perspective. The value of the property has gone from $700k (purchase price) to $985k (valuation from last month) in about 5 years.

    I got 2 x questions:

    1) Do you calculate the growth rate as per below?
    ($985k / $700k) ^ (1/5) - x 100 = 7.1%
    This is how annualised growth rate is calculated.

    Or would it be more like this?
    $285k / $700k x 100 = 40.7% over 5 years = 8.1%

    I think the correct way to do it is the first approach. Please confirm.


    2) Also, what do you consider as a bad, average, good and excellent growth rate percentage? Would it be as follows:

    - Bad < 4%
    - Average 5-6%
    - Good 6-8%
    - Excellent > 8%
     
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  3. Terry_w

    Terry_w Lawyer, Tax Adviser and Mortgage broker in Sydney Business Member

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    I think anything about inflation is good. recently capital growth rates have been crazy but this is no really 'normal' inflation plus 2% is pretty good.
     
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  4. sash

    sash Well-Known Member

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    As a rule of thumb good property doubles every 10 years of has a growth rate of 7.2% based on the rule of 72 (growth rate into 72 tell you have long it takes something to double).

    So based on this a 700k property plus stamps/legals of 20k. So a total of 720k ...property value now is 985k..so a gain of $265k over 5 years.

    Based on a growth rate of 7.2% per annum it should be worth 1.08m.

    Your property is growing at about 5.1% is average...based on your formula.

    Where is the property?
     
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    My question will be where I can find such property with budget of $800k -1.5mil in today's market which can earn 7.2%-8% pa for the next 20 years :)
     
  6. sash

    sash Well-Known Member

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    Perth....buy in for 400-500k....in 3-4 years...600-700k. Simples. Work the maths on dhat....
     
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    The property is in North West Sydney - Schofields. I bought it as a Home & Land package. I know most investors say that buying H&L isn’t a wise investment choice because most of these properties are surrounded by vast estates of similar properties with a lot of vacant land in the outskirts (supply >> demand), but the property has fared pretty decently in terms of growth. A new metro station came up after I bought it. A new shopping centre and a car park for the train station is coming up too. A new hospital is coming up too. I think I also bought this at the peak of the market right before the decline. I bought it in Jan 2017. I actually bought it as an OO, but will be moving out soon due to personal circumstances and will become an IP. I still doubt if buying H&L in the outskirts is actually a bad investment choice. Any thoughts on this? I know my most recent valuation was done in a booming market, but I purchased it also in a booming market, so it even it out - boom, drop and boom.
     
  8. Never giveup

    Never giveup Well-Known Member

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    Now drop the suburb nane too plz ;) your tip for Vic went long way!!!
     
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    Since capital gain is lumpy, you probably won't find something that grows 7.2%-8% year on year. But if you TIME the market you can do much better than that. For instance I bought on GC just over 18mths ago for around $850k.....worth $1.4m, give or take now. So, if I was trying to time the market, I might sell that, take the profit and go to Perth, wait a couple of years, sell, then take to the next emerging market, and so on, and so on.

    Of course, the promise of greater profit can translate to greater risk.
     
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  10. sash

    sash Well-Known Member

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    Let you know in 2 years.
    Where in Vic did you buy?
     
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    Lots people keep listening to vested interests. I have made a lot of money in H &Lvbut at the right times. Your timing in Schofield's is great but doing it again in Sydney is questionable bordering on madness.
     
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    5 yrs ago Wyndham Vale

    Want to buy next IP in Dec/Jan
     
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    Great...happy for you! Yes Wyndham Vale has gone up a lot...despite a lot of people saying House and Land does not pay.

    Please share the rough numbers so others can also believe all is not bad with H&L. Thanks for sharing! :D

    But I reckon you got jipped;) .....compared to some of the other deals in Geelong. But hey it is great you are not complaining ...and not having a go at me. :)
     
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    Lol

    It wasn't H+L package. We bought the established property built in 2013 for $384k (4/2/2-550sqm). So far so good, it's not doubled yet though ;)
     
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    Ok ...it's probably worth about 600k. Newer gets more
     
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    What makes you think so? Besides it recovering from the bottom, what data factor or metric is indicating it will double in 3-4 years?
     
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    I thought my timing was very bad considering that the Sydney market peaked in 2017 and dipped immediately after that. I bought right at the start of 2017.
     
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    Hilarious:D:p...... @MTR pleeasssee...explaaaiin...... ya know rising markets and all dhat stuff.....
     
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    Sorry, I don’t understand your message. What are you implying and who was it directed to?
     
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    Anyone have answers to my question in my first post?