What makes a Queenslander?

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  1. kcbworth

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    Oh wow I didn’t expect that high. But big blocks like that are getting rarer though. Land is probably worth 1.4-1.5, nicely finished house.
     
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    Nice presentation. Ashgrovian Queenslander. Switch out the bathroom tiles (mistake) and then cant fault the reno. Nice commuter option.
     
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    I would call that a "Queenslander".

    Ashgrovian Queenslanders generally have a double or triple gables facing the street.

    That is a less common arrangement (and rather unusual) combination of cottage verandah frontage with the fancy entry. That is a nice renovation and allows those who want a Queenslander to have one, with a nice renovation internally to give a nice mix of old and new.
     
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    Is there a website to learn different types of Queeslanders hehehe. Wikipedia doesn’t say much
     
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    I think if you google Ashgrovian Queenslander you will see the style that is commonly referred to as an Ashgrovian.

    That house seems to be a cheaper Queenslander with the front verandah that is usually unembellished that someone has added features normally seen on higher cost houses (double post with timber between), gable facing the street.

    We have a Queenslander like this one without the gable. I've always thought of it as the cheaper cousin to the double or triple gable Queenslanders, more a worker's cottage. We also have lived in and owned double and triple gabled Queenslanders which just seem to have been more expensive builds in their day.

    It is these small (but very important) trims and details where many reproduction Queenslanders go so very wrong, and often people think "that doesn't look right" but can't quite work out what looks wrong.

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    I call this a 'transitional' then. When I google ashgrovian queenslander they look like this. But agree usually have more gables. but that front semi built in porch is later and also what characterises Ashgrovians. Also the verandah brackets are from the time of Ashgrovians (plus the suburb). Plus the verandah posts where they are double like that with the chamfer boards in between. I reckon this is '30s.
     
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    We'll have to agree to disagree. When I google Ashgrovian Queenslander most have triple gables facing the street. Have you ever owned or lived in a Queenslander? Or lived in Brisbane?

    I think there is a very subtle thing that people who grew up here have embedded into their minds. This style is fairly uncommon in my experience.

    This house looks like someone couldn't afford a triple gable Queenslander (back in the day) but thought they would pick a gable entry to make it look more grand than a cottage.

    I could pick out photos to illustrate but it is just taking the thread off topic.
     
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    It is interesting that this says it originated from the suburb or Ashgrove when there are so many Queenslanders of the same style in so many other suburbs from the same time.

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    Here it is.
    Interesting that the current owner did not do the renovation. That was done in 2014 so they made 1.5m from market movement in 8 yrs. Big profit
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    Yes that is why you find very very few Ashgrovians in Paddington.
    Radiates outwards. Gets more modern.
    When hit Wavell Heights, post-wars start.
     
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    That is more to do with ages of the suburbs you are mentioning.

    Paddington has all sorts of Queenslanders, many cottages but also has grander houses. Paddington has hillier streets, narrower blocks, hence the narrower cottages.

    Coorparoo has plenty of Queenslanders that are the same age and level of build quality as an "Ashgrovian". It's like calling a vacuum cleaner a "Hoover".

    Ashgrovian sounds better than Coorparooian or Greenslopesian perhaps? :p
     
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    Exactly. Paddington has cottages from 1880 to around 1920. For example single skin front walls with that X reinforcing.
    Bardon and Ashgrove starts to move to 1930s.
    This dwelling was built at the time 'Ashgrovian' was the style and has some of those features. I can concede that it is not full 'Ashgrovian' but the porch extension (with the decorative gable front), the verandah brackets, and those double posts with weatherboards in-between are all found on Ashgrovians.
     
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    I'm curious where you found that photo (what search term)?

    This style of "small cottage" with a typical sloping verandah of a cottage together with a "gable entrance" is not particularly common. Most gables start higher from the ridge line and this one starts lower than the ridge line. It looks quite odd to me.
    That's right... they are. But that doesn't make it an Ashgrovian. Sorry if I sound picky.
     
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    RP data. At some point it was part of marketing for the property we are talking about.
     
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    It isn't the same house though (unless someone has added to the side of that house).

    Now I am very intrigued.
     
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    I cant work that out myself. Looks the same on the RHS. Same door.

    But it shows the photos that at least north of the river describe an 'Ashgrovian' Queenslander.
    I.e. interwar. RP data thinks its 1930 which was my guess.

    -Less ornate verandah brackets and ones that create an arch go right across between posts or down the length of the post
    -The double posts that are filled in - in particular a feature of the extended porch.
    - Decorated gables with vertical strips as well as those corbels

    I am ok if you dont want to call it a quintessential 'Ashgrovian' but it is of that period (interwar) and apart from only one gable thats all that is missing.

    Yes I lived in BNE for 15 years. Was interviewed by the courier mail a few days ago about protecting pre-1911 dwellings. Own a Queenslander.
     
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    All of which are glamorous wording for a pretty looking tree house made from a banana box
     
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    Let it go. ;):p:rolleyes:
     
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    Of course
     

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