What Happens During A Trade War..

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  1. Lizzie

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    ... and back on topic

    "Official news agency Xinhua on Tuesday accused the United States of "using underhanded means to achieve its aim" and "downright bullying" in an editorial.

    If the US thinks it "can achieve its goals with trade bullying, it is really underestimating the will and determination of the Chinese people to defend their core interests," the editorial said."

    China's state media hits back at US on trade | Daily Mail Online
     
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    OK, so nothing positive to report on Oz property or this topic
     
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    Who cares, seriously .....

    This....The bully calling out the bully, very amusing, and something you see in school yards.
     
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    Not in this thread that is about the trade war. But my properties are going lovely, thanks for asking

    Back on topic - if this was bought into play, the US would be on it's knees for generations:

    How Much Does the US Owe China?

    "The U.S. debt to China is $1.13 trillion as of February 2019. That's 28% of the $4.02 trillion in Treasury bills, notes, and bonds held by foreign countries. The rest of the $22 trillion national debt is ownedby either the American people or by the U.S. government itself."
     
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    Not seeing it yet, but interested in what others have to say???
     
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    Scary stuff

    How’s Australia’s debt going? I think it will increase if Labor gets in, they make a sport of this

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    China will simply make long term (as in decades) trades deals with other countries that specifically exclude the US - could be very positive for Australia - the US might find itself very much out in the cold before long, with no way back in.

    The Chinese government talks and thinks in terms of centuries - not short political cycles
     
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    Be interesting to see whats happens here.
    GDP currently healthy

    I expect continuing roller coast ride on US stock exchange
     
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    Fingers crossed

    Australia could lose big in US-China trade deal – not that Trump cares
     
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    Do you mean AUD, its already hit below 70, taken a hammering, but really sure whether this has to do with Tariffs, or more to do with the weakening of our economy??
     
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    Yes the Australian Dollar ,maybe after the election it may recover ..
    The economy will be the next problem,the margin of safety theory never works under labor..
     
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    The AUD I suspect is likely to go down no matter who wins, if interest rates go down as they are expected to.
     
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    The trade war has meant that soy beans from the US are not being sold to China, so there is a stockpile; they are seeking other markets, and now Trump has announced support for the affected farmers.

    However, swine flu has hit China very hard. This would have meant decreased demand for soy beans anyway; it may mean an increased demand for US pork, despite high Chinese tariffs. This could be quite good for Trump.
     
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    This is facinating

    Who needs who more??????
    Me thinks US may Trump this one.... pardon the pun:)

     
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    Watched the video and wasn't overly impressed. He kept talking about Trump as a "fighter" as "paying down his debt" and a lot of other subtle Trump-loving comments that we know are not true - and a quick google shows that he has been a long-term Trump biased fan. The reason China imports so much to the US, is because the consumers want the products that China produces (and the US doesn't).

    We'll just have to wait and see - but atm the tariffs are hurting the US consumer and farmer a lot more than hurting China

    China will become the world's largest economy by 2030 while India will surpass the U.S. | Daily Mail Online

    ... and this is the elephant in the room

    "China is the biggest holder of U.S. government debt."

    China trade war: What else could Chinese do to hurt US without tariffs
     
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