NSW What do people think about Dee Why?

I have no problem with Dee Why's reputation for some social issues, I know it has that reputation. I agree with that. But if you are going to infer that murders are a semi regular occurrence then you better get your facts right. I think your mate at Manly police station is in fact the cleaner

 

Innov8ive you are very sensitive on the topic? I think you will find I said 'there is still the ODD murder in dee why but it has definitely cleaned up over the past 5 years'. No where did I infer they were a 'semi regular occurrence.'

As I said it still might be a good place to invest but I think you have probably missed a lot of the growth.

But...

Just be careful walking along the beach http://m.smh.com.au/nsw/woman-sexually-assaulted-on-jog-at-dee-why-beach-20140729-zyd40.html

Or in your house http://m.dailytelegraph.com.au/news...rl-youth-charged/story-fngr8hax-1227103868190

Or walking along the street
http://m.dailytelegraph.com.au/news...-why-on-saturday/story-fngr8hax-1227411249014

My 'cleaner mate' told me.

Cheers mate.

 

I am sensitive to ******** but that's about it. How many times do I have to tell you the same thing? I know Dee Why has its issues, but when someone says that there is still the odd murder there- that is just utter stupidity. There was one murder in 2010, a domestic dispute. What would you say if somebody said "there is still the odd murder in Narrabeen". Surely you would say that is probably not an accurate way to measure Narrabeen- correct? There have been murders in Narrabeen champ- I have google as well. Even more recently than Dee Why look.
http://m.theaustralian.com.au/news/...een-caravan-park/story-e6frg6n6-1226500485447
And look here more murder in Narrabeen
http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2007-06-17/man-stabbed-to-death-at-narrabeen/71034
You are the one who seems very sensitive. Look at the lengths you are going to in order to try slag down Dee Why. Are you upset because Dee Why has all of a sudden become so popular and nobody is interested in Narrabeen? That's it isn't it? You are jealous ahahaha it's actually clear now. Warringah council are investing all their money into Dee Why and poor old Narrabeen gets nothing. Dee Why may have its social problems, but be careful in Narrabeen because you may die of boredom! #borabeen

 

Come on, let's not get upset. It's just a difference of opinion. I would consider Dee Why a safe place and Natrabeen a safe place too. I have units in both areas so I am happy with both places.
Everywhere has murders and everywhere has crime. I would say Northern Beaches as a whole is a safe place to live.

 

Haha wow

If you said there had been murders at narrabeen I would say 'yes there has been murders at narrabeen.'

I'm just a humble renter in narrabeen. I have no vested interest in either suburb.

But i do hope your investment property in dee why performs well for you. It's obviously the reason you are so defensive.

Enjoy the rest of your Sunday!

 

Murder is not a realistic consideration you should contemplate in purchasing in Dee Why was my point, which is why I reacted to your statement. Happy Sunday

 

Just to give some perspective - I have lived in Dee Why since 2007. I have never experienced any crime whatsoever - be it at my home or on the street. Certainly you see some interesting looking characters about, and west of Pittwater road has its shady pockets, but I have never had a problem.

 

Lets all get along and say Dee Why and Narrabeen is fantastic because we support Manly Sea Eagles!! To give everyone hope the spit bridge is meant to be completed by 2030. That's something to look forward to. Not sure if this is myth or not, but in Narrabeen lake there was a bull shark that bit off the end of a canoe and also below is a link of another urban myth.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ne...sceptics-on-edge/story-fngr8hax-1227107304188

 

I have to laugh at many of the posts above. People writing about a suburb they have very little personal experience about is amusing - like sitting on the sidelines and watching. The same with watching a current affairs program slag a business or insurance company when you actually work for the company and know the real facts, or major points the current affairs program fail to mention that would turn the story upside down.

I have lived here for 30 years. Anyone else know it better than me? You get crime everywhere, from expensive inner burbs to the outer. High density living, (unitville areas) do naturally come with a little more risk and a bit more riff raff due to lower buy and rent prices and higher concentration of residents compared to family house areas but I have never felt worried any more than any other suburb. I have often walked home from the bus after midnight on a Friday or Saturday night without any more wariness than taking note of anyone else walking down the street. Teens get up to a bit of mischief everywhere, and there have been problems over the years in family house suburbs such as Forestville and Avalon. Don't forget a reasonable amount of crime is committed by people from out of the area or passing through on a Saturday night. The main bus stop is also a stop for the express bus, so it attracts more people especially youths heading into the city (or Manly) on a Friday/Saturday night, and a lot of the problems we have had with intoxicated youths on the buses at times are those that come from further up the peninsula and would have been closer to sober when they got on the bus. People visit areas like Dee Why and Manly because they are nice beachside areas, you don't see thousands of people flocking to Collaroy Plateau, Forestville or Belrose to go to the beach or crab a coffee, a few drinks, ice cream, or a meal at a restaurant. The restaurants, cafes and bars along the beachfront make it a desirable place to live, but there is a price to pay as alcohol plus young people do create some problems. It's a numbers game, but I chose to stay here because it has a life, there is action, rather than move to a house in the family suburbs such as Frenchs Forest or Belrose where I would be bored s**tless watching kids ride their bikes in the street instead of the vibe of people coming and going from the beach . No offence to those living in Belrose or Frenches Forest, but you get my point .

I would prefer people to avoid Dee Why, talk it down because I am selfish and don't want it tuned into another Manly and have to share it with half of Sydney on a summer's weekend, or traffic and development to increase further due to it popularity.

 

there's a lot of new development in dee why & this will continue over the next couple of years. There is also a lot of new infrastructure and improvements to the area, which is greatly needed as it's a bit of a hole at the moment.

 

It is a bit of a hole in the main shopping area on Pittwater Road while some shops are empty pending development, and some have been for a few years. BUT Dee Why is usable, it has everything I want. It has 2 Coles, a Woolies, an Aldi, a hardware shop, 2 large grocers, a few butchers, a few Asian shops which sell the good products for Asian cooking unlike much in the supermarkets, plus other small shops. Old shops mean lower rents, lower prices, mum and dad type businesses. You wont see these at Westfields. I go to Warringah Mall for all other shopping. Doing up Dee Why and having nicer but more expensive type shops will not compete with the bigger shops at the Mall. It will look nicer, but of no real benefit, and at the cost of parking lots which will be turned into a road and multistory/underground car parks which I avoid as a hassle to get in and out for a quick shop. I can see people doing less shopping here and more at the Mall because if they have to drive into a multilevel car park they may as well drive 5 minutes down the road where there are a lot more shops. Even there, I park outside Bunnings in the open car park where I can get in and out of in a minute rather than enter the multilevel car park. It all about convenience and avoiding congestion.

Bayfields liquor on the ground floor of The Grand shopping centre in the car park basement has lost business because some people could not be bothered going down or to park - very narrow to manouver. Its old shop on street level in Sturdee Pde with an open tared block beside it for parking was fantastic - in out out of the carpark in 15 seconds and park within 10m of the door. It was a quick in and out for anyone passing by. The same with the Fruit World across the street where people could park off the street outside the door and wizz in and out. That's been developed too. Some of the businesses which were on the streets but moved inside the The Grand Shopping Centre lost business because they were no longer in convenient locations. Doing away with the open air car parks will deter a lot of people shopping nearby as the convenience of ducking in and out quickly will no longer exist once they have to enter multistory/underground car parks with boom gates. There is only limited street parking - which is always first preference before the car parks.

Give me something that is old but user friendly and convenient over something that looks nice but is of no interest to me and inconvenient. When people say ooh ahh at the new town centre they don't live close by and realise what negatives it comes with. But that's life and progress!!!

BTW, development has been going on for 30 years since I have been here, more so in the last 15, it is just not in the last couple of years or years to come!

 

Hi All,

I'm wondering if any members have a more recent view on Dee Why?

Particularly interested in houses and streets/areas to avoid.

Any long term views on the suburb?

Any feedback appreciated.

Cheers.

 

Look I think Mt Druitt is much safer than Dee Why or Narra(jim)been.

In the Druitt, when you walk the streets at night, you need to have your wits about you and be prepared for the unexpected.

Maybe hide a piece of wood in your jacket to replicate a sawn off. This would ward off any potential attacker.

Conversely, in the Northern Beaches, one walks around blasé at night not thinking that the person following close by is actually a visitor from the Druitt who is about to "bump" up the area's crime stats lol

 

Thanks for the reply.

Looking for broad information on Dee Why, not just in respect of the crime.

 

@schmick23 , early this year I had a chat with a buyers agent in Sydney and he mentioned that Dee Why was one of his target neighbourhoods. I think the reasons were new hospital ( I believe in Warringah ), an expanded / revamped town centre in Dee Why, tight vacancies, etc. There are some blocks / streets with walking distance to express bus stop to the city.

I have a few mates that live there (young families ) and they really enjoy the beach and facilities near by. I was looking to buy there in 2014/15 ( 2 bed apartments around 500-600k) now they are around 900k. I am not sure if it is the right time to buy there (it seems it has peaked, like any other neighbourhood in Sydney) .

The Dee Why detractors in my opinion are:
- at least one hour from public transport to CBD
- high density: lots of old block apartments (although they are great size units) and a few new high rise ones are being built (Lighthouse - 9-17 Howard Avenue Dee Why)
- location / rental price might attract lot's of working holiday visa / students demographics, so rent turnover might be somehow frequent.
- not the favourite location (due to the distance factor) of white collar force

- positives:
- tight vacancies: a friend moved in from his PPOR in a Tuesday and by Saturday her 2 bed apartment has been leased
- amenities: cafes, shops, library, aldi, coles,
- lifestyle: beach / restaurants
- if you don't need to come to CBD, everything you need is around Dee Why or Warringah
- express bus to the city (if I am not wrong, Fresh Water or Curl Curl don't have this advantage)
- pigging back the property price growth in Manly

There are my 2 cents. Let us know if you decide to investigate it there further and update us with your findings!

 

Here is my 2c.

I have been a Northern Beaches all my life so I have seen it change immensely. 20-25 Years ago Dee Why was a dangerous place you would not walk the streets at night due to the Pacific Islanders who would roam the streets and beat you up basically. That was a long time ago and in recent times there is no youth anymore hanging around the streets and the homeless kids who used to hang out at DY Main bus stop and the Youth place in Francis Street are also gone. This has been due to DY Hotel changing their demographics (No more disco parties and $5 drinks) and the lack of housing for families which places like Mona Vale and Newport still suffer from. I walk from my house in Cromer to the RSL or to DY Hotel 4 times per week and back anytime from 6pm to 3am so I can quite confidently say there are very few people hanging about these days.

Onto the fun stuff.. The below pic outlines my streets I would not purchase for the following reasons

Lismore Street Area - No on street parking at all and if you do get a garage its tiny. Its also very dark with minimal lights and trees covering natural moonlight. Always an uneasy feel due to this.

Francis/Delmar/Pacific (Highlighted) - Hilly area and the intersection at Pacific is a pain.

Richmond/Clarence - Too close to RSL. Big raffle nights the roads are packed and closer to walking by Drunks and street parking is hit and miss due to the proximity. Also parts of Richmond are near the Lagoon and smell like crap.

If you can check out 8 Burne Avenue this was a top spot where a friend lived...
U 8/4-8 Burne Avenue, Dee Why, NSW 2099 - View Sold History & Research Property Values - realestate.com.au


<img src='https://i.imgur.com/zPlBzS2.jpg' />

 

Dee Why is still a good area to invest in. Currently, you can get 1 bedroom units for around $650-mid $700k and 2 bedroom units between $780-$900k depending on the condition and amenities. The rent for 1 bedroom units ranges between $500-$600 per week and for 2 bedroom units between $550-$700 per week. With a new hospital and revamp of the transport infrastructure in the area, as well as the existing beautiful beaches, any investment in this area will provide not only good cash flows but also steady growth for long term investment.
Of course, for cash flow purposes it is important to get a good deal on a good property. An older unit (approx 15-20 yrs old) that has ben held by the same owner can usually be a very good investment, especially if you're willing to put a little bit of work to improve the condition of the property. A small investment in the right renovation can go a long way in generating cash flow and increasing the value of the property. If you're not sure exactly what to do, it's always good to get advice from the expert such as a buyer's agent. The sales agent work on behalf of the seller but buyer's agent has the best interest of the buyer.

 

thanks heaps for enlightening us about how the world works

now I know who has my best interest, my mother and my BA

 

Hi All,

Thanks for the valuable input.

Hey Kate, this is primarily why we are looking at Dee Why. We're thinking about having a family in the near future and the in-laws live on the Northern Beaches (Palm Beach) so naturally we're drawn to the area. We're currently in the Inner West but enjoy the beach and having access to facilities/lifestyle amenities interests us.

Agree with your detractors and certainly the travel will take getting used to but I think its a fair trade-off for access to the beach and the overall lifestyle. I think once you get past Narrabeen, North Narrabeen, Warriewood, etc. the travel becomes a bit much. Hopefully the new B-Line will improve this, or at least make the ride more comfortable/bearable.

Hey celsioraus, great feedback also and thanks for the area overview. Cromer was actually on our list of potential suburbs also.

Nice to know you feel comfortable walking around the streets in the evening. I agree, speaking to locals who have been in Dee Why/Cromer for a while, seems as though the old housing commission, etc. has gone and the areas generally gentrified.

What I have noticed is that property prices on the Cromer, Naraweena, non-beach side of Pittwater Road appear to be more affordable. Lots of properties coming up/sold in Victor Rd, Prescott Avenue, Lewis Street, etc.

Do you have a view or feel for this area/side of Dee Why?

 

I was saying that Dee Why was gentrifying back in 2015 but even I didn't think it would happen as quickly as it has. Dee Why is actually becoming quite hip. For such a built up area, it has so much green space and usable public space. Unfortunately the secret is well and truly out and weekends are just rammed with visitors, good for local business i guess. If they sort the transport thing out, this place will continue to trend upwards for quite a while.