What a rout! WA state election

You haven’t allowed for the difference in the incoming overseas passenger load.

 

America is the only place where this doesn't appear to be true - I guess they value money more than life

 

Are you saying that NSW quarantines processes weren't perfect either?

I agree with you.

 

Nice try. No, I am saying that risk of COVID spreading to the community is exacerbated by the positive cases brought in from overseas passengers. The risk factor is higher in NSW versus the other states. So your numbers need adjusting by applying this factor.

 

IMHO, America has a long way to go before they get to the other side.

1,000 to 1,500 Americans are still dying every day from COVID, even though they have vaccinated 20% of their population. A lot better than 4,000 deaths per day but they still have a long way to go.

We all know the death impact of their COVID decisions. Absolutely awful for a first world country.

It will be interesting to see the economic impact of their COVID decisions, when all of this is over.

 

If NSW quarantine was perfect, then this wouldn't be a problem.

I believe:

To be fair, none so far have been, some have been better than others.

 

NSW didn't achieve the least deaths, they DID successfully balance minimal infections for minimal disruption to the economy which was a sensible objective.
Avoiding the problem completley by locking down a city for a single case is not the same as actually managing the problem.

By McGowan (and his supporters) logic shouldn't all cars be ordered off the road too, thus achieving zero road deaths?

 

Not if you were one of the 54 in NSW who died

 

Unfortunate indeed. 54 in isolation is terrible, 54 in the context of 8.2 million more or less going about thier normal lives is not quite as headline grabbing though is it.

What about the 24 WA road deaths last year though? Why not order all cars off the road to bring that to zero?

 

It will be interesting to see whether WA voters replicate their votes for Labor in the federal election. If that is the case the Liberal government will be on shaky grounds and it hasn't been helped lately with the scandals surrounding Christian Porter and Linda Reynolds.

 

McGowan is no star, far from it. He had nothing to beat, probably the worst opposition in Australian political history. All he had to do was shut the borders, nothing brilliant about that. Being Isolated helped that as well. I think he will be in power for at least another 5 years probably more. Scotty from marketing will win easily as well, nothing to beat.

 

They won't replicate votes federally but Morrison backing Palmer in the challenge of border closures will hurt the Libs federally. That move was deeply unpopular in WA

 

Voters will crucify WA Liberals for unholy war inside party

https://thewest.com.au/opinion/gary...ls-for-unholy-war-inside-party-ng-b881073077z

 

Completely agree! Except..... its fair to say the likes of the US didnt really manage it at all once the virus got in.
NSW didnt see exponential growth with thier outbreaks because it was well managed. WA didnt really manage it so much as they just tried to hide from it at all costs.

Eventually it will have to be confronted however as years from now in a post vaccine world there will still be isolated cases pop up. Is the answer going to be to keep sending entire cities into weeklong lockdowns each time an individual case pops up?

NSW at least took the line of accepting the virus exists, life must go on in a risk assessed way that doesnt swamp the medical system.

Remeber the goal of flattening the curve? When did the goal become eradication at all costs? When premiers egos came into it I suspect.

The road death comparison was to point out the folly of relying on complete eradication.

 

Marko will be the next PM!?

 

That explains why the president of a country is now permanent

 

I didn’t reply to your first posting because I thought that comment was non-sensical.

Exactly and one would have thought it was common sense. Apparently not.

Once again, exactly. Once again, one would have thought it was common sense. Once again, apparently not.

 

So what was the point of McGowans hard and fast week long lock down of an entire city for one single case?
With only 75% of the population intending to get the vacine that will still leave approx 500,000 unvaccinated people in the Perth metropolitan area alone will it not?

Common sense would dictate the need to confront and manage the virus, not lock down each an everytime a case pops up.

I agree that ordering every car off the road to prevent a single death is stupid, but its the same stupidy being applied by some state premiers in order to prevent a single covid death rather than flattening the curve to prevent medical resources being over run.

I dont think Sydney locked down in its entirety once yet the medical facilites coped just fine.
They sought to manage risk and confront reality rather than hiding from it.