Valuation coming under

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  1. jins13

    jins13 Well-Known Member

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    Hi,

    Apologies in advance for doing this topic to death.

    For myself, having experience with the vals coming under the contract price for properties in NSW. Is this the norm for all investors at the moment with valuers being conservative? And yes, have disputed vals and provided comparable properties that settled, which were comparable homes but to no avail.
     
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    Not so much for established - but can happen for OTP.

    Just had a VIC OTP come in $100k lower :-(

    Cheers

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    Terry_w Lawyer, Tax Adviser and Mortgage broker in Sydney Business Member

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    I haven't seen a purchase come in lower for as long as I can remember (which generally is the past 24 hours).

    Often happens with refinancing estimates though.
     
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    jins13 Well-Known Member

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    Thank you Jamie and ouch $100k under!

    Maybe I am unlucky as the properties (established homes) I am interested in are coming under by $30 to 50k from the contract price. I don't mind $10k off the contract price but having that much differentiation is killing me.
     
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    Actually had a go at one of the val company and informed them to sent out a professional to do the val and not an intern or a kid who is new in the job.
     
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    Just had a H&L package come back $63k short.

    When you say you provided comparables why were they ignored, I've never had a issue with challenging a valuation when there are genuine comparable sales. Worst case can usually request an secondary valuation from the same bank from different company.
     
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    Terry_w Lawyer, Tax Adviser and Mortgage broker in Sydney Business Member

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    This won't help your cause! You have to be professional too.
     
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    Tried that approach first..... with comparable sales in the area. They used last year's data and one April figure.
     
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    Terry_w Lawyer, Tax Adviser and Mortgage broker in Sydney Business Member

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    That's ok then! Nothing to lose.
     
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    I never had this issue as well before, but for some reason, they just refused to accept or adjust their figure.
     
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    Who's the bank? What's your banker/broker had to say about it all? They can't just ignore comparable sales when a dispute it lodged, need to give reason why they're not deemed comparable.
     
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    jins13 Well-Known Member

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    Liberty and the broker is a renowned fellow in SS.
     
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    Terry_w Lawyer, Tax Adviser and Mortgage broker in Sydney Business Member

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    That explains it!
     
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    jins13 Well-Known Member

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    Please explain and btw l am not a supporter of Paulie
     
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    Terry_w Lawyer, Tax Adviser and Mortgage broker in Sydney Business Member

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    Liberty is considered a lender of last resort. More risky for valuers...
     
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    Thank you terry and was advised the generous and competitive rate of 4.99% became 5.83%.
     
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    Hopefully my next val is going to be on the contract price and can allow alittle variation. Fingers cross!
     
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    Depends what OTP product it is

    When we mention OTP product that is higher risk I think its apartments where there is an oversupply.

    MTR:)
     
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    I hear this a lot from Lenders "we don't have much influence on the report that was handed down by the valuer"..... the comment above implies Lenders do have a direct/indirect influence on the valuer? Maybe the valuer 'knowingly' that Liberty is a conservative lender.....
     
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    What was the reason for this?!!

    Even their comparison rate is 3.86% now.
     

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