two weeks to settlement - freaking out

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  1. starfish_99

    starfish_99 Well-Known Member

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    Oh for **** sake! I'm a total nerd about credit scores and reports. I have access to my credit report from all three credit bureaus. I know intimately what's on there.

    Stop assuming im an idiot.
     
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    starfish_99 Well-Known Member

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    maybe it's because I've changed jobs and addresses often? earning more $$ every time i got a new job I might add
     
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    I don't believe anyone is assuming you're an idiot.
    We're getting bits and pieces of the puzzle, eg. now you're saying you've changed jobs and moved around a lot, that wasn't anywhere else in the thread.
    You've mentioned you're on $250K at one point, then $300K at another point.
    Without knowing the full story we are forced to assume some things.
    There is clearly a reason you've been declined, one lender has advised credit score, the other has advised they view you as high risk - You need to get clarification on EXACTLY why you've been declined, without knowing what the issue is makes it hard to know how to proceed.
     
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    starfish_99 Well-Known Member

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    Neither of the two that have declined me, have wanted to disclose WHY I their internal credit or risk scoring declined me. They say it's their confidential technology.

    That was the first thing I asked.
     
  5. wylie

    wylie Moderator Staff Member

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    I'd be settling with any bank that will lend, and then go about refinancing when the urgency is gone. Choose a good broker (already suggestions in this thread) and stop this verbal ping pong. Clock is ticking...
     
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    As I posted earlier:
    I understand the OP is stressed out but the way to resolve situations like this is to remain calm but assertive.

    I applied for refi last year and it took 4 months. All sorts of errors and mistakes were made including poor valuation, losing the trust deed, ...

    I could have gotten aggressive with the bank BUT they had the money and I wanted/needed it.

    I took the calm and assertive approach until I got the money. Then I wrote a long email detailing all of the stuff-ups they had made and how disappointed I was about how they treated a loyal and long-term customer.

    It didn’t change anything but at least I felt better :D.
     
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    Ok here's the timeline of bank idiocy:

    Get pre-approval for my and partner with macquarie (current bank), it's a bad interest rate and people tell me going through a broker is better.
    Based off of Macquarie pre-approval, we get a house at auction
    The broker I engage strongly pushes me first towards NAB
    We get declined at NAB due to my partner's Optus default ($900)
    Broker then has me change contract of sale to my name only, and pushes me to apply to BOM/STG
    BOM/STG reject me due to some automated scoring mechanism they won't explain
    Broker then say to go via him to Macquarie
    Macquarie declines me, scores me a risk 5, and says they would have approved me with my partner on the application. they say they hadn't picked up my partner's default, but as a couple we're risk level 5

    Note, I make 300k a year, work for a household tech name, and my wife makes 50k a year. the property value is 980k
     
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    Do you understand now why I'm royally ****** off at the banks? I've never gotten a response as to why I am "high risk"
     
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    starfish_99 Well-Known Member

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    I already have a broker who is working on this as we speak. I have no time to engage yet another broker. I need to earn 400k to get access to private banking. Maybe next year.... until then, I'll end up with a subprime lender like a pleb, and I'll never give any business to NAB, BOM or Mac in my lifetime.
     
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    In a word, NO.

    As I keep saying, being arrogant, getting aggressive, being ****** off, ... is NOT going to help your situation.
    My refi was for $1M and I have been a self-funded retiree for nearly 10 years. Yes, the bank made me jump through hoops. Yes, they stuffed me around. But I had a strong business case, I remained calm and I remained assertive. In the end, they lent me the money.

    Something is not adding up here. Can you provide us with a brief outline of your business case?
     
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    Does Macquarie even do fully assessed pre-approvals?
     
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    How much are you borrowing? Over 80%?
     
  13. Marty McDonald

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    The auto pre-approvals are the devils work. I hate them. Not a problem until its a problem like for the starfish

    Issues maybe?
    - Lots of changes to job / addresses?
    - Possibly low asset position relative to age and to income? Is this a first home?
    - 90% + deal?
    - non applicant spouse or spouse with default

    You need a lender who doesn't credit score clearly. What about Resimac is 3.34% up to 95% but not sure if they self insure?
     
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    Grab a copy of your credit report. Make notes on all inquiries and status

    Apply with a lender that does not auto credit score
     
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    No - most lenders don't, CBA does and a few others but Macquarie isn't one of them

    OP said 90% somewhere along the lines, not sure if 90+LMI or inclusive.
     
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    A good option no doubt
    AMP Also don't credit score and have slightly better rates, assuming servicing works
     
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    Is this the broker you mention in the timeline in post #87?

    If so, then I'd not be confident that he's going to get it right on his third attempt.
     
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  18. Marty McDonald

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    AMP credit scores now.
     
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    Really? Spoke with my BDM this morning an he advised they still don't credit score??
     
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  20. Marty McDonald

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    Not my experience at all Peter. ME pre app vetting policy is they want credit enquiries from last 2 years explained. Now that we have CCR it makes no sense but they still asks if a credit card enquiry etc went ahead or not