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  1. wylie

    wylie Moderator Staff Member

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    Or perhaps prison ships?
     
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    All this talk of opening the borders to overseas visitors got me thinking that it is a moot point. Even if Australia agreed to it tomorrow, there is one very good reason why tourist numbers into Australia may not eventuate as many on here would like - health insurance (or lack of). Many insurance policies now are likely to have a COVID clause inserted and how many tourists will simply not travel if they do not have adequate travel insurance?
     
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    International travel has to resume ASAP , self funded quarantine is fair enough , but at the moment departures are banned , a ridiculous situation. A $10k bond or similar would be fine , if measures still in place when you return they use the bond , at least long term and business travel resumed and long term I.e 3 month plus tourists .

    but to plan to stay in indefinite isolation like some sort of North Korea is mind boggling, they might as well turn off the lights on what’s left of the economy . Personally I have seen $500m of projects put on hold until investors can get their expat staff to come in .
     
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    But what happens if you travel and the country or neighboring countries you travel too have major outbreaks and they cancel all incoming and outgoing flights? Would you expect Australia to fly over and bail you out?
     
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    No course not , part of a bond would be some sort of waiver

    you have thousands of people in this country who do cross border business ,

    I understand the restriction on entering and certainly in the short term until you organise quarantine on arrivals for a larger scale , it’s the sensible logical thing

    but to prevent people from leaving and to prevent dual citizens leaving to countries of their citizenship is ridiculous and draconian , another example of the ultra nanny state , how many more OECD countries prevent people Leaving ?


    You need to get travelling moving again for all sorts of reasons and a bond , waiver and self funded quarantine in designated facilities is the way forward , and indefinite total border closure is not
     
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    I think its draconian if they would stop your country from picking you up pre covid. But now the world knows and you travel at your own risk I certainly don't think it would be draconian if your home country just said bad luck, we warned you of the risk. We cant afford it.
     
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    If you are allowed enter a country at other end , you should be allowed leave once you agree to waive any reparation assistance , people have Cross border businesses to run , they need to get on with it

    submit a $10k bond or whatever for your quarantine on arrival back (if measures still in pace ) and you get something happening again

    I understand and support the restriction on entering , I don’t support the restrictions on preventing people leaving
     
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    I get what your saying to some extent but things change, I just wouldn't want to be overseas say in Spain and they have a major outbreak. Flights get cancelled, just like now, simple really.
     
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    Have all given up on my US trip at the end of the year - probably will confine ourselves to Oz until there's a vaccine.
     
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    Its wise
     
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    I saw something about flights over Antarctica... you don't get off the flight, you only fly over it. It's a travel option.
     
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    What a great idea - could offer flights to the rest of Australia to do a low pass over Melb to see a stage 4 novelty.....

    The Y-man
     
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    Win-win. And Melbournians will think life is normal with flights overhead.;)
     
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    Omg....... yikes...... no thanks
     
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    If it was going to be a realistic fake flight, it would be for 15 hours, not 15 minutes.

    They aren't uncommon. But Air New Zealand had one in 1979 which crashed killing 257 and have never resumed.
     
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    Taiwan are the covid champions.
    Business as usual
    7 deaths I think - population 24million
    These guys starting taking serious precautions before February
     
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    I don't remember anything happening in 1979. So it didn't happen :)