Transfer from peronal name to Trust

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  1. TaylorChang

    TaylorChang Well-Known Member

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    Hi,

    I have a question.

    If someone has a property under his personal name and he has discretionary trust.

    This discretionary he is the sole beneficiary and trustee.

    Will he need to pay for stamp duty for the transfer ?
     
  2. Terry_w

    Terry_w Lawyer, Tax Adviser and Mortgage broker in Sydney Business Member

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    Yes.

    There would be no transfer though as the transfer or and transferree is the same person. This would be a declaration of trust.

    And he couldn't be sole trustee and sole beneficiary as there would be no trust in such a situation.

    Don't forget cgt and asset protection implications too.
     
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    Terry_w Lawyer, Tax Adviser and Mortgage broker in Sydney Business Member

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    And don't forget the mortgagee permission would be needed
     
  4. Ross Forrester

    Ross Forrester Well-Known Member

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    If a person creates a bare trust in wa so the legal ownership changes but beneficial ownership does not change then their is no stamp duty.

    So we are not talking a discretionary trust. The only way to stop the stamp duty is when the trust relationship is as bare trust.

    The only time I have done that is when somebody is seeking privacy.

    I had a bunch of blokes trying a bare trust arrangement with “latent discretionary powers” but they did not work.
     
  5. Terry_w

    Terry_w Lawyer, Tax Adviser and Mortgage broker in Sydney Business Member

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    Same in Nsw and Vic and probably most states