Told You So...

Discussion in 'Property Market Economics' started by euro73, 16th Feb, 2018.

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  1. euro73

    euro73 Well-Known Member Business Member

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    Just as predicted... LTI ratio's changing. And not for the better . Last year I wrote about this and several other members suggested I was incorrect.

    Well... here 'tis.

    Now, these changes are material but not seismic by any means ... NAB are reducing theirs from 8 to 7. Thats @ 11% reduction give or take.... But that's not really the point. The point is, it's yet another incremental de-tuning of servicing calcs . A HEM CPI increase here combined with an LTI ratio reduction there, and little or no wage inflation... adds up over time...

    So the question remains... where's all the capital growth going to come from in this environment? Far better off purchasing for yield and concentrating on debt reduction...

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  2. spludgey

    spludgey Well-Known Member

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    Mine is currently sitting at around 27...
     
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  3. Rolf Latham

    Rolf Latham Inciteful (sic) Staff Member Business Plus Member

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    Dont think i have had any deals at NAB that have been great than 6in any case that would pass servicing ?

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  4. HUGH72

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    Does that include rental income?
     
  5. spludgey

    spludgey Well-Known Member

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    No, good point. That reduces it to around 12.
     
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    Lacrim Well-Known Member

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    Phew...I was sweating bullets there for a while.
     
  7. KinG3o0o

    KinG3o0o Well-Known Member

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    buy for yield and naturally there will be capital growth because its a good property in good location ala dividend stock ?
     
  8. HUGH72

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    Makes sense.
     
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  9. Graeme

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    So let me see if I've got this right, you can now borrow seven times your income instead of eight? That's gone from completely crazy to just insane.

    If someone earns $150K plus super, their take-home would be $8666 per month.

    Eight times that would be $1.2 million. On a repayment mortgage at 4% interest rates, it'd cost $5783 per month. If rates go up to 7.5%, it'd swallow almost all the income.

    Seven times would be $1.05 million, which would cost $5060 a month, leaving about $3600 of the salary. Still, if rates went up to 7.5% the buyer would have $1250 a month left over.

    Neither scenario strikes me as prudent lending.
     
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  10. Rolf Latham

    Rolf Latham Inciteful (sic) Staff Member Business Plus Member

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    Single income earner with 2 kidlets on 150

    runs out of puff at around 750 to 800.

    LTI doesnt mean much per say., its just another measure, which tends to hurt multiple investors more

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