To Fix or not - that is the question

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  1. Owlet

    Owlet Well-Known Member

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    I had planned to fix a couple a few weeks back - put it off as you do - I'll do it tomorrow which turned into two weeks and then Whammo CBA lists rates effective immediately. At the time I could have got 3 years for 4.29 same as my current variable rate.

    Now the option is 4.69 2 years or 4.79 for? That is a 1/2 a percent on my current rate.
    My OO loans are 3.87 and 3.92 with current fixed rates being 4.44 2 years and 4.54 for 3 - so up to .6 higher.

    Is the general sentiment that IP IO loans will increase further this year and next?
    is this the same with OO IO?
    Has anyone else fixed - paying more now with the aim of not paying a lot more later? Or to have 3 years of stability by way of known rates?
     
  2. Jess Peletier

    Jess Peletier Mortgage Broker & Finance Strategy, Aus Wide! Business Member

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    I don't think PPOR rates will go up significantly unless they're IO - and the rises will be less than for IP IO.

    You've got great discounts on your rates so I wouldn't worry too much for now - it'll take you around 2-3 rises to break even so for me it's not worth it UNLESS you think rising rates will cause you financial stress.
     
  3. Jamie Moore

    Jamie Moore MORTGAGE BROKER - AUSTRALIA WIDE Business Member

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    Hiya

    Double check those rates - the 2 year fixed should be lower than that (even based on IO repayments).

    Agree with Jess though - you have a decent discount off the SVR already.

    Cheers

    Jamie
     
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    Simon Moore Residential & Commercial Mortgage Broker Business Member

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    There are still some decent investment, interest only fixed rates going, 2 years at 4.05% with Virgin stands out. If you are going with a bank that has not yet moved fixed rates, you probably want to pay a rate lock fee ASAP!
     
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    i'm with CBA too, current invesment loans are at 4.44% for those set up last year, 4.64% for the one set up this year. online it gives me the option of 4.84% for 2 years or 4.94% for 3 years for them all.
     
  6. Owlet

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    Thanks for the responses. We won't be under stress if they rise. OO is IO. If banks pass on 0.25 as flagged today - that would take my 4.24 t0 4.49 - one rise off the 2 year fixed.
     
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    Mine has just jumped up to 4.44% 2 days ago from 4.18% variable with cba. I'm also contemplating fixing.. probably for 3 years at 4.79%. I was also too slow and missed the boat with fixing at 4.29%. Oh the decisions..
     
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    Remember the talk all the time of record low interest rates ? well that has passed.

    There are a number of people fixing, it will depend on how many places you have and how you like to budget & how many will be going from IO to P&I

    It is all a question of cash flow and budgeting, I kinda like low rates and know what I am up for in an environment that looks more like a likely to rise type of environment.

    Do people really think, for instance, that banks will not continue to find ways to keep profits up ? or pass on govt taxes ? and further banking requirements ?

    But it also makes sense to look at what you have, if your PPOR is 70LVR & P&I and your on 3 something, that is a far cry from many Investment rates that are at or around or even over 5 *already*

    PS only recent that banks are having one rate for investment and one for home, that may be the norm soon for many ?
     
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    Rolf Latham Inciteful (sic) Staff Member Business Plus Member

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    Was quite the norm 20 years ago.

    What was unfashionable soon comes around again :)

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    Still the same from the last increases - the interest rates quoted on the website are for P&I investment fixed rates, not IO.
     
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    Yeah, what is old is new again, it is like many workplaces, they have a roundabout where the same old ideas turn up over and over.....
     
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    right - i bit the bullet and fixed 3 IP loans today. the variable rate and rapidly risen and is now higher than the 2 year fixed rate of 4.84% with CBA
     
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    My inv IO are now 4.79
    MY oo IO are now 4.47
    CBA site only has P&1 rates - does anyone have the current CBA IO fixed rates?
    My head hurts when I read the P&I or IO threads - I am not sure what to do moving forward.
     
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    Were these IO?
     
  16. Jess Peletier

    Jess Peletier Mortgage Broker & Finance Strategy, Aus Wide! Business Member

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    Cba are currently competing with the WBC and NAB 2 yr fixed for P&I at 3.88% - existinglending won't get that but pretty close.
     
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    Yep IO 5 years
     
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    What is CBA offering for existing lending? What is everyone getting now?
     
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    I am not sure they could sound the horns any louder.......

    "P&I"


    If your on IO , then fix, or look at a calc including years of loan to run, and look at difference,
    t may be worth changing to P&I and taking up a fixed offer.
     
  20. Jess Peletier

    Jess Peletier Mortgage Broker & Finance Strategy, Aus Wide! Business Member

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    I just fixed on ofmine IP P&I at 3.92 for 2 years. Was 4.78 before that.