This is what is wrong with our parliament

What's wrong with parliament is when someone comes second in an election and then receives preferences from others to put them over the line as witnessed recently at Wentworth with Phelps only getting 29.1 percent of the vote and now sitting in parliament. It's a crook system.
As far as SHY and her like, ( including the Libs) there is a lot of man attacking going on ATM, including parliament, universities, corporations, schools and anyone else who is being sucked in by Marxist ideologies all attempting to engineer outcomes which is not the right way to go about things.
Thirdly , Julie Bishop's mistake was that she aligned herself too closely with Malcom Turnbull and Christopher Pyne and this was a wrong strategy for her. She needs time to rebuild herself in the next term of parliament which is a better for her because if she became leader now like she would be wasted, something that SCOMO will find out after May.

 

... another example of what is terribly wrong. The "powerbrokers" behind the scenes making the decisions not based on what is best.

Summary: State sitting member has thrown a dummy spit and declared that if he's not automatically preselected for his seat (which he was going to get dumped from) - then he will cross the bench for the remainder of his tenure ... so any preselection contest has now been cancelled

Turnbull slams Liberal battle over Kelly preselection

 

Tearing themselves apart from within ... and items like the automatic pre-selection gives ordinary members (and the public) no confidence going forward

 

It's all a terrible mess.

 

But this doesn't allow for the fact that with a different voting system, people (clued up people, anyway) would vote differently - 'tactical voting' in UK. In Wentworth lots of the anti-Lib voters who first preferenced someone else who was eliminated and second preferenced her, would have put aside their first preference and voted for her instead.

Coming from UK, I positively like preferential voting. What really dismays me is that the 'how to vote' card system doesn't work as I imagined. I'd assumed it was 'put me first please, but after that put Joe second - there's lots we don't agree on but he's the best of the rest'. Instead we get Libs second placing Greens, with whom they have nothing in common, as an anti-Labor tactic and so on.

 

Well - if they continue to not listen to the will of the people ... reap what you sow

 

Might as well ignore what’s happening with the Libs as the probability of a Labor Gov’t next election is extremely high now.

Regardless of one’s view on the Labor Party you gotta admire them for being upfront with their policies especially given the major changes involved. Normally this would make them a soft target but the Libs are doing more to get Labor elected than the opposition themselves. Labor just need to stay quiet and let the Libs do the job for them.

Fortunately should Labor Policy become a reality it has through luck more so than good management coincided with changes to our investments / structuring. Eg SMSF limit reached (further cuts / changes to NCC, CCs), Closing Disc Trust (min 30% tax), sold last IP / nothing else to sell (halving CGT albeit grandfathered “hopefully”), cheaper tax / SMSF fees ($3K limit), increased diversification / restructuring of investments (minimise franking credit refunds impact), no debt / negative gearing now or in future (NG only on new property).

Interesting times ahead.

 

Swings and roundabouts - Labor did make themselves un-electable during that term and learnt from that kick up the pants ... hopefully Libs will do the same once they're kicked out

 

After watching question time last night it's a wonder how anything gets done in parliament. Each side beating it's chest, flopping it out and banging on about how good or bad the other mob is etc.

If they could leave all the BS out of it, there just might be a little less disillusionment with the system.

 

One has to keep reminding yourself of the obvious, what happens if both Labor and the Libs are all voted out and low budget Independents take control..Just because Labor thinks they have already won means SFA..

 

Unfortunately today parliament is driven by Egos, and until it changes we are all going to suffer with poor decision making.

 

That is the crux of it - if enough apathetic voters refrain from the major parties, we'll end up with a coalition of misfits governing the country, smaller parties, interest groups, religious fanatics, white supremacists, who knows what else. Our parliament will be as dysfunctional as those in many European countries.

 

You would think after watching Rudd/Gillard/Rudd self destruct themselves, and how bad it was that for them that the Libs would have learnt from it, but instead they repeated it. Maybe they all need to release a document, " Common mistakes in politics 101".
Interestingly when Rudd was first elected his popularity rating was in the 70's.
I do believe that the problems labor had and liberal have are different but what they do share is listening too much to what the media says about them, rather than what the majority of ordinary Australians think.

 

Watching the politicians does my head in all acting like spoiled kids fighting over the last tim-tam

Where's Arnie



Politicians behaving badly, out of touch with reality, getting regularly caught out rorting the system

Politicians also enjoy what has been called the ''Minchin protocol'' - a process used when former senator Nick Minchin was special minister of state - allowing parliamentarians to repay wrongly claimed entitlements without consequences.







Politicians behaving badly

 

I think no one should underestimate ScoMo . He did come from behind of Bishop & Dutton and got the PM. There's no such luck falling to anyone's lap. There cant be an accidental PM especially in Aust in the last few years. It took plenty of work to knife any PM. Now LNP cant replace the PM so he still have some time for the election next year