This Housing Downturn is Over 2020

Discussion in 'Property Market Economics' started by Harris, 9th Jan, 2020.

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  1. Human

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    Mass unemployment just started. Global IT company i work for has all contractors gone this week & our hours also reduced. One medium size Australian company i know has 20 staff sacked (not hold) from Sydney office & over 70 staff nationally just this week only. Same company, more sacking is coming next week especially sales executives. Friends running small businesses (one man to 20-30 employees) losing most of them. GFC2.0
     
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    I guess this pandemic will be used as an excuse for some companies who were not doing well anyway, to gain access to funds and/or sack employees under the guise of the pandemic?

    Who's looking at the books of those getting access to government help?
     
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    My aunty has been stood down at Qantas.

    Guess it was not too unexpected given the business though.
     
  5. Ummm

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    Over 20% of housing stock has changed hands in the last 4yrs. Not all of this will have debt attached but still a significant amount. Interesting to see how this pans out, very difficult to predict, although safe to say it's going to make a dent! 3months ago I wasn't happy with my cash ratio but saw too much risk in the markets. As circumstances have turned out there may be some opportunities come up. Still very cognisant of holding cash when they have the printing presses running...not keen on getting left behind!

    https://www.rba.gov.au/publications/bulletin/2010/jun/1.html
    Fact file: 9 million homes with 2.6 occupants - this is the Australian housing market - ABC News
     
  6. Wattle

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    My biggest concern with what is happening now is within what you mention. Interest rates are not being used as a measure of risk. Governments propping up lending by artificially holding down rates is going to be dangerous and cause more systemic issues in the long run, I guess this is where due diligence and consideration by lenders come in. Let’s hope they are not overly pressured to give out loans - otherwise you may as well make them government owned.
    Banks have not traditionally been sophisticated enough, had enough data or perhaps used the data they have to apply granular risk based pricing to their retail book. It’s also perhaps a cost benefit thing but in the future with better data analytics I don’t see why they shouldn’t?
     
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    GFC 2.0 is an understatement.

    This time around, there is no Mining Boom or Property Boom to save Australia.

    The 21st Century Great Australian Depression is a more fitting description.
     
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    Low rates will help I guess , but in the end - cash flow is KING , yet again .
     
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    Theres government stimulus to fix it.
     
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