The future ....

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  1. 2FAST4U

    2FAST4U Well-Known Member

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    That's actually a pretty accurate list! Those jobs are not completely obsolete but they have been on a steady decline similar to manufacturing.

    1. Secretaries are not obsolete yet but the future is clearly heading there. Accurate.
    2. Bank teller jobs are declining as banks are continually shutting up shop and moving to an online presence. Accurate.
    3. Call centres still exist but instead of being automated they are being offshored. Accurate.
    4. Receptionists still exist but I think it depends upon the industry whether they will be in- demand for the future. Anything involving patient care (hospitals) will continue to need receptionists not just as a welcoming face but as a person to operate the increasingly sophisticated technology for appointments etc.
    5. Middle management jobs will continue disappearing as companies continue to look for cost savings. Accurate.
    6. Librarians still exist but it’s definitely another declining industry. Accurate.
    7. Wholesalers. Accurate.
    The issue is that a lot of these jobs are being replaced by service sector (would you like fries with that) jobs, which tend to pay less than traditional jobs like manufacturing / middle management.

    For millions, low-wage work really is a dead end
     
  2. Gockie

    Gockie Life is good ☺️ Premium Member

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    Full marks for your ability to write notes. 100/100.

    Full marks for the tl;dr version. :)
    Again 100/100.
     
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    'Fries with that' jobs apparently are a portion of food services at 7.2%. Same as Manufacturing
     
  4. Lizzie

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    You are considering this via a current technology viewpoint ... firstly there will be a requirement for only 1/4 of the number of car in circulation ... but who knows what technology will exist in 2-5-10 years.

    Hydrogen battery technology is making big advancements - printable solar panels are now a reality

    Hydrogen Fuel Cell & Battery Electric Vehicles — Technology Rundown | CleanTechnica

    Printable solar cells
     
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    Might use a chart that covers a longer period

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    Yeah, Lizzie did an amazing job She is totally up to my usual standard at school.
     
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    Can I say that?
     
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    And actual jobs in manufacturing in Australia

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    but as you know 'services' are barristers, neurosurgeons, software architects and jobs at maccas
     
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    Comes from practice as the Secretary on a not for profit organisation - sheesh - you should see the massive amount of note taking required during board meetings!
     
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    Yes - due to automation - but without the same percentage rise in accompanying jobs ... exactly what the initial post was about - and the chart 4 posts above.

    The data in the link shows that "manufacturing" has returned to 2002 levels ... dropped during the GFC ... whereas the actual jobs in manufacturing have reduced significantly
     
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    At the moment, there seems some good stats for employment
     
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    and in that link

    "“ABS employment data indicate manufacturing employment is at its highest level since August 2012.”
     
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    as shown in the chart - but still significantly lower than 2000
     
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    I feel out of place in a school full of teachers but I am swinging here.
     
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    yes like most advanced economies

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    Yes - as per the initial post - the countries are getting richer as production increases, due to automation, but the number of jobs are declining
     
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    can you show me any stats to show number of jobs is declining?
     
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