tenant wanting roof to be insulated

I have seen houses where tenants have pinched the insulation at the end of the tenancy. The property managers don't notice since they are not in the business of hauling ladders around to check the roof cavity.

 

Honestly thar just means it wasnt done right.

A combination of anticon or similar, good high r value batts and a light colorbond roof vs a tiled roof with no insulation and everything else the same would be astronomical. Im talking many degrees cooler naturally and a big drop in the need for a/c

 

Good post. Ultimately with a bit of money and a lot of attention to detail a huge difference can be made to how we live on a day to day basis as well as lead to big drops in energy usage

 

I see this partially as trying one on.
Property owner vs tenant is a power struggle.
Having power doesn't mean being an ass.
It's just about letting them know who's boss.

Anything can be done... For a price
Tell them that a new lease is going to get drawn up with an increase of $x if they want insulation done.

if they don't like it, tell them to wear some more jumpers.

 

Roof insulation wont make any difference to noise transfer through non-insulated walls.

As for insulation done through that govt scheme. A friend of mine was at home when the guys turned up at their house. The staff simply threw the batts up into the roof cavity but didn't spread it out or lay it anywhere. They were lumped together around the manhole. My friend got up there after they left and he finished the job, mumbling about fire hazards and what a waste of taxpayer's $$.

 

Is @sanj the only one in defence of ensuring the livability of the premises?

Everyone else has backed up the attitude of "if it doesn't increase rent there's no point" as opposed to maintaining cashflow by keeping the "customer happy". What sort of customer service are you providing - this is YOUR business folks, you have one unhappy customer (think of the backlash of 'tight@rse landlord won't. ..... on ACA, FB, etc).

We say that we 'care' about the environment but don't give a stuff about the environment when it comes to our own hip pocket? What a bunch of hypocrites!

(Off your high horse SNM).

 

I agree with 'walking the talk' about sustainability. My concern is to be sure that whatever you do is right for the situation.

I installed thermal curtains in my IP in Melbourne following a tenant request.

I disagree with one of the comments above which said something like 'I didn't notice any difference when insulation was installed temporarily , therefore insulation is useless!'. That's like saying 'I didn't brush my teeth for three months and didn't get cavities in that time, so no one needs to'. In that house, insulation really may not have been needed. Or maybe it was the wrong type, or maybe not in place in the season for which it was designed....

Queensland has particular requirements for insulation. It's not just a matter of putting in some batts. In QLD, some 'free running' houses may not need insulation, others may just need reflective insulation, others, which rely on artificial cooling due to rubbish design, may need a lot of bulk insulation.

And then there is the whole issue of avoiding creating excess condensation ...

 

No apology offered! Or needed. (I do write this with great respect, though.)

I was summarizing the comment hence the qualifier '...something like...'

 

I accept that you may not necessarily notice the difference however when installed properly it is effective. It's better to have it installed than not (like Kevin 07 even gave it out for free, so it must be good). Even if it is limited to slowing down the transfer of heat it's better than nothing.

We live in a cavity brick, insulated & shaded house taking into account solar orientation etc - it still gets hot and cold but with smaller extremes.

 

My question would be is it a cold/hot house? Some houses have no insulation but seem to do ok. If this is one of those houses that really needs insulation then without it you will have a constant turnover of tenants. If you can get the tenant to pay for insulation = bonus.

 

We had insulation installed under the govt scheme. We used a well established Brisbane company that had been around for a long time (hubby had insured them ten years previously). They recommended batts which we went with.

Didn't notice much difference. Our ceiling was well ventilated prior with larger eave vents and Whirly birds. We mainly installed the insulation for resale value, and didn't have to pay much.

After six months or so we got in touch with the company to tell them the insulation had made little difference. They sent out a supervisor who climbed into the ceiling and spent hours packing the batts more tightly and installing another two bales of batts.

Difference noticeable, mainly in summer.
Marg

 

I figured from your post that you had the tin foil. We looked at it, but hubby was keen to use a company whose reputation he trusted.

Our house is very well designed with great solar passive advantages. We did not feel we needed insulation, but felt it was too good an opportunity to bypass as the cost to us was minimal as the govt paid the first $1600 (from memory).

However, it is a lowest house, and in summer we do notice the difference when we come in from outside. Friends who had a high set house used to sleep downstairs in the rumpus room on hot summer nights!
Marg

 

Fortunately for me it's a no brainer as everything I build HAS to have insulation so that it passes the 6 star energy tests. Guess my tenants are lucky.
Good design and good insulation means a lot in Perth - mainly in terms of our summers but also benefits in winter.

 

It might be strange to them.
As I said, there is much stranger.

 

When did I say I care about the environment ?

Why do I care about high horses or who rides them ?

Am in the middle of removing insulation from a rental now before it is let, this will prevent theft & provide an opportunity to show who is boss & at the same time, we add 20% to energy bills, so the higher they are, the better for us.

 

On

Are you serious or trolling? If serious can you explain what you achieve by the tenant having a worse property to live in with higher ebergy bills? Why is that better for you?