Tax Tip 222: Borrowing to Pay Super and Deductibility of Interest

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  1. Terry_w

    Terry_w Lawyer, Tax Adviser and Mortgage broker in Sydney Business Member

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    In the past we would have said that is not possible to borrow to make a super contribution and to claim the interest. But the laws have recently changed to allow all members of a fund to make a contribution to their superannuation and claim a deduction for doing so – in certain circumstances.

    Now, Interest could be deductible to fund contributions to super because of s26-80 ITAA97.


    This section says you can only deduct a ‘financing cost’ if you can deduct the premium under s290-B. ‘Financing cost’ includes interest s26-80(2)(a) and expenses of borrowing s26-80(2)(b)

    INCOME TAX ASSESSMENT ACT 1997 - SECT 26.80 Financing costs on loans to pay superannuation contribution
     
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    Woah. May I ask for a Simpson example.
     
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    the interest would not be deductible for Montgomery Burns
     
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    Is that because he is 76?
     
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    he
    he was born in 1881 so yes over 75
     
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    Paul@PAS Tax, Accounting + SMSF + All things Property Tax Business Plus Member

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    And....

    Montgomery Burns is a employee. Sub 290-B is EMPLOYER contributions. Subdiv 290-C governs employee (self) contributions.

    I would doubt the the nuclear reactor is operated by a soletrader. Smithers would have got some good tax advice for Monty.
     
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    Mike A Well-Known Member

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    and as a high net worth individual would have a self managed super fund and since he is a US tax resident he wouldn't meet the active member test.
     
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    Paul@PAS Tax, Accounting + SMSF + All things Property Tax Business Plus Member

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    No problem. He contributes to Cbus.
     
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    Say, I take $100k from a LOC. Make non-concessional and/or catch-up contributions to my super. Buy shares, property etc. The interest on the LOC is tax deductible, essentially negative geared against my personal income? I smell LRBA-like possibilities
     
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    No its non-deductible.
     
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    Cheers. So does not apply to employee contributions.
     
  12. Terry_w

    Terry_w Lawyer, Tax Adviser and Mortgage broker in Sydney Business Member

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    Yes this only applies to employers and I don't think the law has changed on this recently.

    An example may be where there is person 'self' employed by a company. The company could borrow to pay their super, claim extra deductions, and feed more money into a holding company or bucket company for investing.
     
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    What about sole traders?
     
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    Probably ok
     
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    Would be great if this was the case but given there is no obligation for the sole trader to make super contributions I'm surprised.

    Scenario : Borrow 25K to make a non concessional contribution to super fund and then claim a tax deduction for this up to non-concesional limit (currently 25K p/a), and then on an ogoing basis claim the interest on the borrowed 25K....
     
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    Yes. Check the legislation.
     
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    That inspires a lot of confidence :rolleyes:
     
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    You would need to get specific legal advice or look at the legislation yourself
     
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    Thanks will do.
     
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    @Terry_w is a sole trader seen to be both an employer under division 290-B and an employee under SUPERANNUATION GUARANTEE (ADMINISTRATION) ACT 1992 - SECT 12?
     
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