spACE forccccce

Omg. I had no idea this was a US Government real proposal....

 

Oh yes - with funding requested - one that anyone outside Trump's inner circle doesn't want a bar of:

As the Pentagon moves to stand up a Space Force, budget fight looms - SpaceNews.com

 

Hey, aside from the silly name....maybe it could be a good thing? More space research usually progresses us a species?

My gut feeling is the timing seems interesting considering the Russian investigation....but hey...I'm happy to be proven wrong!

 

I think 30 000 or so Americans die every year from preventable illness due to lack of access to medical care and you have the country performing 47th in the world In education of its population then I'd argue even if space force idea miraculously has merit its crazy to spend even more of the money they don't have on defence

The US currently has a yearly discretionary federal. Budget of around 1.25 trillion. Of that 1.25tn, nearly 900bn, or close to 3 quarters, goes to military/defence spending. Out of the remaining 1 quarter, that has to be spread around EVERYTHING. Infrastructure, education, health, policing etc etc

The very idea of a proposal to spend even more on this sector, let alone the loony tunes aspect, when 40 million Americans live in deep poverty and it has the highest child poverty rates in the entire developed world is as badly thought out as it is insulting imo.

 

The stats and figures you posted are a bit off and misleading.

Pie chart of 'federal spending' circulating on the Internet is misleading

In any case, despite the usual "US sucks" chants there are still hundreds of thousands of people that want to migrate to the USA.

You also have the US citizenry who are vehemently opposed to universal healthcare for whatever reasons

 

1) I used actual figures from the 2019 budget released in may 2018 that I got from this website Secrets of the Federal Budget Revealed
The article you quoted was from 2015, the only misleading post here is yours unfortunately

2) the discussion and specifically my post was regarding the badly weighted allocation of federal funds and I stayed why with some specifics, you're free to disagree of course but mentioning anti us sentiment and that it's still popular with immigrants doesn't address, agree or disagree with my post and was entirely irrelevant

3) you've been quite misleading in making it seem like the majority of citizens are strongly against universal healtcare when over half the country supports it. Most polls over the last 2 years show a 52 to 60% support so the citizenry overall definitely doesn't vehemently oppose it, less than half does.

Might need to update your info sources or reference points

 

SNAP!! i stand corrected

I guess all Democrats have to do to win the next election is offer universal healthcare

 

Lets revisit this thread in 10 years time, I think those of you against this development will see the benefits.

 

Lets revusit this thread tomorrow, next year, 5 years from now, 10 years from now and almost anytime really.

I think those of you celebrating this idea when:

- America has 30k preventable deaths yearly due to lack of access to healthcare,
- when the current budget deficit is 1TRILLION per year,
-when flint, Michigan still doesn't have drinkable water
- when America has the worst child mortality rates in the developed world and one of the worst life expectancy
- when America has the highest amount of poverty in the entire developed world
- when American education standards are so low they now rank 31st out of 35 OECD nations in the world...


...either don't have a clue or don't have a care and either way it's outrageous

Easy supporting these childlike imotqcrivim ideas from the comfortable perch us Aussies sit on, with safety nets and government standards far in excess of those many in America could only dream of but hey, who cares about the hungry, homeless or vulnerable right, let's smugly support "SPACE FORCE"

 

*childlike impractical

 

Read up on Neil Degrass Tyson’s thoughts on it. Makes sense to me.

 

His thoughts relate to the idea of a "space force" or equivalent and come from his science background.

In the event of a genie granting you 3 magic wishes sure, but I'd love to hear how taking money away from the truly needy and the truly underfunded organisations to find this space force, at a time when the armed forces already swallows more than half of the entire federal discretionary budget, makes sense to you?

You realise people are actually dying and there are kids in poverty who then attend terribly underfunded schools to get a substandard education because so much is spent on the military but you think it's wise to spend more?

What happened to empathy in this world??? Good lord.

Not my kids who cares right

 

3000 people died in 9/11 and that was enough to set off a war that still hasn't ended and changed the entire world's direction, lead to over 1million dead and trillions of dollars spent

The same number of people die every single month or so In America just from lack of access to proper healthcare. Truly stop and think about it. Just about every single month. For the nearly 200 months since 9/11.


In case that didn't sink in, roughly the entire population of the gold coast has died just since 9/11 from a lack of access to healthcare. Something just about every single one of us takes for granted and never has to worry about .The entire gold coast. Wiped out.

But you think exploring space is more important right now?