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  1. MTR

    MTR Well-Known Member Premium Member

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    I would like to see this happen Australia wide..... its a start... Good onya Victoria for leading the way.


    Victoria to ban sale of puppies and kittens from pet shops unless they come from a rescue shelter

    • Victoria set to restrict sale of puppies and kittens from pet shops
    • Will only allow sale of puppies and kittens if they come from a shelter
    • Under new measure breeders would be restricted to maximum of 10 dogs
    • Pet shops and breeders say this will lead to 'shonky backyard' dealers

    The Victorian government is set to ban the sale of puppies and kittens from pet shops unless they come from a rescue shelter.

    Under the new measures breeding facilities would also be restricted to a maximum of 10 dogs by 2020.

    Jaala Pulford, the state's Agricultural Minister plans to introduce the legislation by the end of the year, ABC News reported.

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    Under the new measures breeding facilities (pictured) would also be restricted to a maximum of 10 dogs by 2020


    The breeding facility in Gippsland, east of Melbourne strongly opposes the changes.

    'Labor is proposing that all dog breeders have a maximum of 10 female dogs. This is regardless of the care they are given, the experience of the breeders, or the number of staff a breeder has,' their website reads.

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    This has angered pet shop owners and breeders who say the new laws will only encourage 'shonky backyard breeders'

    Pine Puppies purchases all its pets from breeder Banksia Park Puppies (pictured), whom it is in partnership with

    'It also doesn't take into account the facilities, the practices or the benefit to the community.'

    Banksia Park Puppies argues 'smaller does not mean safer.'

    'Our property has more than 100 breeding dogs which are looked after to the highest possible standard.

    'The scale of our business enables us to make the investments needed to ensure our dogs and puppies are provided the best care and go to their new homes healthy, happy and well-socialised.'

    The RSPCA said the new legislation would stop 'impulse buying.'

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    Very good news indeed.. It's always seemed a bit strange to me seeing dogs for sale in a shopping centre, like someone would pick up a dog with their milk and bread? o_O

    Selling a rescue dog in a shopping centre environment isn't much better as it won't stop impulse buying.

    In my opinion all dog purchases should be done with a home check and some sort of background check to see if they've surrendered a pet before..
     
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    Its a step in the right direction.

    Have you read my link... puppy mills should be banned.

    MTR:)
     
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    Almost as good as the banning of 52 shades of greyhound racing? (In NSW).
     
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    I'm not sure this is the answer. I'm not even sure what the question is. I presume it's bad conditions in 'puppy farms'. If that's the issue, then regulate and enforce the puppy farms. Perhaps make it that pet shops have to purchase off approved suppliers that have been through govt checks and licencing. That could include shelters that onsell litters from pet owners who's pets get knocked up.

    This proposal has the potential to create a supply problem for pet shops. Are there enough puppies and kittens surrendered to meet the pet shop demand?
     
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    read my link
    STOP PUPPY MILLS | Animals Australia

    there are no shortage of dogs, that is definitely not the issue.
     
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    I've done it twice. The first cat had a great life, stayed with me and died of old age. The second I've had for five years now.

    Until my mum volunteered at the RSPCA I thought all the animals they sold were adults. If I'd known they provided kittens I would have supported them rather than got them from pet shops.

    The RSPCA effectively do it now. They run stalls at EKKA and the like, relying on the impulse buy to shift stock. Given, the 'shop assistants' are better trained to match a pet with a person and won't sell to someone unless they're satisfied the pet's not going to be surrendered the following week.

    That's a bit extreme and would dramatically drive up the price of dogs. Better training for store staff would be good so they could match pet's to owners.

    I love Siberian Huskies, and saw and ad from a shelter for one. After speaking to them I was soon convinced that this was not the dog for me. Pet shops should provide that sort of service.
     
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    10 females could be unreasonable if implemented on all breeds. Possible for bigger dogs, but not for toy dogs that usually have 1-2 puppies in a litter. I don't think it is possible for responsible toy dog breeders to maintain genetic diversity with that amount of female.

    Neither does bigger :-/ Personally I don't trust any breeder that allow their puppies to go into a pet shop.
     
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    Plenty of shonky backyard dealers around here. Hopefully legislation on this sort of thing will be next in line.
    As Ed Barton points out, people might start to get a touch more awareness.
     
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    There may be if these laws pass. Well puppies that is. That's what pet shops supply.

    If the issue is puppy mills then regulate them.

    Where do you think shelters are going to get puppies to sell to pet shops? Unexpected pregnancies in dogs is nowhere near cats.
     
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    Are you serious? For there to ever be a shortage of puppies there would have to be a national shortage of irresponsible pet owners and/or pet owners who can't look after themselves properly let alone a pet. Unfortunately there will not be a shortage of these types of people any time soon and hence equally there will never be a shortage of unwanted dogs/puppies/cats/kittens/children.
     
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    I think ed refer to puppies from shelter to pet shop... I often check dog rescue sites and most dogs are adults, with a couple of pregnant rescues. People likes puppies and impulse buy on puppies, that's why you see them in pet shops and not adult dogs. The grown dogs from those impulse buys are now in shelter, not when they are puppy and cute.

    Ban on selling in pet shop is a start, but this won't stop them to list on likes of Gumtree, trading posts, FB buy and sell group etc. There are demand and there are many avenue to fill it.
     
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    SAFE and shelters are also full of cute puppies. Not all adult unwanted dogs are the result of impulse buys, I see a lot of people who get away with not taking responsibility for their pets, or anything else. I'll stay out of this conversation as I can't fathom the need for designer dogs bred to people's particular taste for size, colour, shape etc. All feeds in to the view of dogs as objects and the end result, dogs in puppy farms, pet shops and then the pound.
     
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    we get pups in all the time, however they are the first to go. Many get flown if from Aboriginal communities this is in WA
     
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    Good to hear that the puppies are rehomed rather quickly. I can only see ones listed on the rescue sites .... Why ones from Aboriginal communities get flown? (am not familiar with the process)
     
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    Don't get me started on that!