Simulation of super earnings in retirement

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  1. craigc

    craigc Well-Known Member

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    Just a quick question for the gurus?
    Sorry trying not to make it how long is a piece of string type question.

    What percentage share earnings/returns do people use for retirement calculation simulations?

    If it helps background - super balance would be >$1.6M by late 50’s and looking to retire around this time.
    Would only need the minimum annual withdrawal %.
    This question is just for the share portion,

    Researching say VAS ETF shows average divs average low 4 % and growth 9 %.

    If I use a simulation of 3.5% div yield and 6% growth realistic / too conservative for the simulations?

    I have the RE returns portion of the simulation under control and don’t plan to need lumps sums for paying off debt. PPOR and 2 x IPs.

    Appreciate any input - thanks all
     
  2. The Y-man

    The Y-man Moderator Staff Member

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    I usually work on 5% return total - prob too conservative and bit old school but still....

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  3. Scott No Mates

    Scott No Mates Well-Known Member

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    I'd suggest a sensitivity analysis - plug in a range of returns for each asset class. This way you will end up with a variety of scenarios from everything crashing/booming simultaneously to mediocre returns in some classes whilst others are rocking their socks off.
     
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  4. Anne11

    Anne11 Well-Known Member

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    Some academic research suggests 4.5% plus inflation. So around 6-7%. Reason being: due to current higher valuation hence lower expected return than in the past.
     
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  5. Paul@PAS

    Paul@PAS Tax, Accounting + SMSF + All things Property Tax Business Plus Member

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    A good benchmark is industry super return for a comparable product. Note however that the trend to reduced market returns and low inflation may overweight some longer term results eg Comaring 8 years returns is not practical. And if you used three years the 2020 year is an abnormality with low return which recovered in the period between July - December 2021

    Growth should also reflect investment risk. Growth should not be a linear positive rate.
    Many poor financial planner and DIY projections will use a linear constant. This is evident in the GFC. In 2008 markets fell. In 2018 the ASX recovered to its pre-GFC levels. Thats a real world example.

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