self investing super options and tax deductions query.

Discussion in 'Superannuation, SMSF & Personal Insurance' started by Timkot, 30th Jul, 2019.

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  1. Timkot

    Timkot Active Member

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    Hi folks when starting an SMSF the costs of running such fund can be claimable, such as investment/trading courses, software etc.

    Various funds such as Qsuper have a self investment section where you do your own buying and selling of shares etc. Are investment/trading courses , software etc also claimable when using self investing inside a regular super fund as distinct from an actual SMSF.

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  2. Paul@PAS

    Paul@PAS Tax, Accounting + SMSF + All things Property Tax Business Plus Member

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    The SMSF can claim its investment costs. It likely also needs to pay these. Courses etc would NOT be deductible and likely be a concern. You are thinking the SMSF is you. Probably more a sign the trustee lacks skills to self manage investments.

    Software ? To trade ?? That also may or may not be a concern.

    The SMSF or fund claims the costs not member. A member cannot claim any costs of investing instructions on their super account in a smsf or any other fund. They dont incur any costs. The trustee does. Its like insurance in super. Its not deductible to a member since the trustee pays it.
     
  3. Timkot

    Timkot Active Member

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    Thanks Paul, just wanted to make sure, I was aware that personally I could not claim, I am aware that the trustee can do share trading courses buy software etc and the fund will reimburse as those things are for the smsf. I was just seeing if self investing though a super fund would would or could be 'claimable' in some way as its self directed, but you have answered the question. thanks