Seeking general advice - 1BD, Wolli Creek

Discussion in 'What to buy' started by VolumesOfSilence, 21st Mar, 2019.

Join Australia's most dynamic and respected property investment community
  1. VolumesOfSilence

    VolumesOfSilence New Member

    Joined:
    21st Mar, 2019
    Posts:
    2
    Location:
    Sydney
    Hi All,

    I am seeking some general advice. I am a young single professional moving to Syd in June 2019. Ideally I am looking to buy rather than rent. To this end, I've been watching out for affordable units - particularly around Wolli Creek (I know others loathe the area, but I really like it). The unit I'm looking at is OTP; $550k for a 1BD with a car space. 50 sqm internal + 3 balcony. Construction has commenced and I am told the project will settle in Dec 2019/Jan 2020.

    I have a 10% deposit plus a $15k buffer. I anticipate having 20% by Nov 2019. I've read an enormous amount of material regarding the risks of OTP (& oversupply, continuing decline in Sydney unit prices etc.), but I can't help but feel as though $550k seems somewhat reasonable (having regard to current listings and recent sales). Due to the nature of my work I anticipate many late nights in the office, so I really need to be close to the CBD and would likely be paying $500-600 p/wk in rent in any regard.

    Am I missing something?

    Thank you in advance for any input.
     
  2. Noobieboy

    Noobieboy Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    10th Aug, 2017
    Posts:
    2,172
    Location:
    Utopia
    Did you look at Mascot or Green Square? Similar prices*. Half the distance to CBD*

    *aprox
     
  3. Dsign

    Dsign Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    30th Dec, 2018
    Posts:
    255
    Location:
    Sydney
    Invest somewhere else and rent in sydney

    If u hate money buy an apartment in Wolli creek
     
    Gladys likes this.
  4. Mel Morgan

    Mel Morgan Sydney Property Manager Business Member

    Joined:
    6th Jun, 2017
    Posts:
    1,451
    Location:
    Sydney
    Why would you want to buy rather than rent if a) capital growth is unlikely in the medium term, esp for OTP units in high supply areas like Wolli Creek & b) renting should work out cheaper when you take into account stata, council, maintenance costs (edit: sorry no depreciation).
     
    Last edited: 22nd Mar, 2019
  5. Scott No Mates

    Scott No Mates Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    18th Jun, 2015
    Posts:
    27,225
    Location:
    Sydney or NSW or Australia
    Not if the OP is OO.
     
    Mel Morgan likes this.
  6. Trainee

    Trainee Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    24th May, 2017
    Posts:
    10,325
    Location:
    Australia
    Reasonable based on what? The problem is that you dont know what the market will be like in a year.
     
  7. Illusivedreams

    Illusivedreams Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    3rd Oct, 2017
    Posts:
    2,456
    Location:
    Sydney
    Zetland, Green square much nicer areas.

    Not a fan of Mascot it's loud it's over developed few too Little green areas left. Full of Students who dobtd really make it a home rather temp accommodation.

    Wolli Creek is . I'm not sure how to comment. I just dont like the wibe atmosphere the people.... I have friends who looked came back with same opinion

    Zetland you can walk to Crown Steet in 15/20 city in 45 that's walking . Professional couples , families small amount of students. Markets in the main Park.
    Much better feel imo. It is high density done well.
     
  8. hammer

    hammer Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    28th Aug, 2015
    Posts:
    2,863
    Location:
    Darwin
    I think you might be. Look up high rise on the forum here. Most people here won't touch them and with good reason.

    If I were you I'd honestly rent.
     
  9. TMNT

    TMNT Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    23rd Jul, 2015
    Posts:
    5,572
    Location:
    Melbourne
    50sqm with 3 balcony !?!?
     
  10. Propertunity

    Propertunity Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    19th Jun, 2015
    Posts:
    3,476
    Location:
    NSW
    Congratulations on at least doing your own research and getting a feel for what you like in terms of suburb and facilities. I am guessing that if you may be working late that you might feel safer on the well-lit train from Central on the airport line rather than walking to somewhere close like Zetland?

    All the same, as the other posters have said OTP in this market is just too risky. Also you cannot do proper due diligence on a building’s history (construction issues) since there is none. Remember the Opal situation.

    In my opinion, if you want to buy, and it’s a long term decision, buy something established. Consider areas like Arncliffe, if you haven’t already. All the best with your search.
     
    qak likes this.
  11. Lacrim

    Lacrim Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    25th Jul, 2015
    Posts:
    6,192
    Location:
    Australia
    With a budget of $550K, you're not locked out of better options.

    Seek out a 2 bedder with parking in a red brick 70s building a bit closer in or out, say in Arncliffe or Kogarah down south, or perhaps Homebush in the West, or even the Northern Beaches if you stretch your budget. Renovate it when you can afford.

    And if you want a blunt answer, spending $550K on a 1 bedder in Wolli Creek is a BAD IDEA.
     
  12. VolumesOfSilence

    VolumesOfSilence New Member

    Joined:
    21st Mar, 2019
    Posts:
    2
    Location:
    Sydney
    Dear All - Thank you sincerely for your advice. I have decided not to go ahead on the OTP deal. I will instead look at established units (and continue to save in the meantime) - including consideration of other areas such as Zetland.
     
    hammer likes this.
  13. Redom

    Redom Mortgage Broker Business Plus Member

    Joined:
    18th Jun, 2015
    Posts:
    4,648
    Location:
    Sydney (Australia Wide)
    It's up to you whether you buy or not, but well worth going in with open eyes about your timing.

    The supply demand dynamics of OTP aren't really in your favour at the moment. Perhaps the price has already adjusted though. For a good while yet, Sydney OTP supply will outstrip demand. That should technically lead to price/rental deflation for a while. Sydney will absorb it relatively quickly, but there's a transition period. Supply lags demand in construction cycles. Demand picks up, supply takes a year or two to respond. The same thing works in reverse. Demand drops off, supply takes a little while to slow down.

    We are in the period where demand has dropped off but supply of new OTP hasn't just yet. That makes it a bit riskier to buy OTP now than in previous periods.
     
  14. hammer

    hammer Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    28th Aug, 2015
    Posts:
    2,863
    Location:
    Darwin
    I think you just avoided a lot of pain. :) congrats. Hang around here for a few months and learn . It'll really help you make a better decision.

    Good luck!