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Security cameras. Can tenant object?

Discussion in 'Property Management' started by Frank Manno, 3rd Jan, 2017.

  1. Frank Manno

    Frank Manno Well-Known Member

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    If you are the landlord and rent out your property and had security cameras can the tenant object?

    Cameras only on the front side and back of house.

    Can they object if I installed these during the lease period and / or after?

    Is this legal?


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    If you were the one with access to the video they would object however if they were in control of the images (no video feed to your phone/tv/pvr) they could be amenable.
     
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    There are no laws against objecting. But there are laws against certiain types of surveillance.
     
  6. Frank Manno

    Frank Manno Well-Known Member

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    Thanks everyone for responses.

    I have my elderly dad moving in after the current lease and wanted to put cameras to just keep an eye on his safety. But didn't want to remove them later after renting it again

    Might give the idea a miss.
     
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    Netgear Arlo. Wireless, can be fitted in less than an hour, only need a local wifi setup. Allows for cloud recording, live stream to phone, remote access to change settings & has IR for night time.

    Ridiculously easy to remove.

    FWIW, I've been running this system for just over 3 months with no issues what so ever.
     
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    They can object, but just show them they are disconnected or the DVR has been removed.

    I would like it if the system was there and I had use of it though.
     
  9. VeronicaR

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    As a tenant, unless I had an amazing relationship with the landlord, I would assume dodgy reasons for wanting this.
     
  10. neK

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    I don't see why you can't have it as a feature (eg an Alarm is a feature).
    As long as only the tenants have access to the cameras i don't see what the issue is.
     
  11. VeronicaR

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    I agree that if the landlord did not have access to the footage, this would be a feature.
     
  12. Emble

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    So would I. And even if it was amazing, I would be uncomfortable with it. You shouldn't change the property without them knowing or agreeing esp with cameras during their tenancy. I think it might even constitute as nuisance of a sort if it affected their quiet enjoyment and right to comfort, solitude and privacy and what not on the property. The only way to really avoid that is to ensure that it is filming beyond the edges of the property and not continual.

    An alarm is a feature because it goes off, but allows a tenant or whoever to punch in a code to switch it off. It also is usually set to specific periods. It is also responding to an "intrusion". Cameras are not announced every time they film, continuously, and there is information transmitted from cameras to unknown locations that is a helluva lot more personally identifying in nature than an alarm. It might not even be okay to do it for your dad unless you check with appropriate legislation if it has anything to do with privacy, informaton, surveillance like that and a person's residence for sure.
     
  13. Marg4000

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    Install the cameras while you dad is there (with his permission) if you want to, then remove them when he leaves.

    I would think it illegal to have them inside the property while rented.
    Marg