Rorts - Pork Barrelling - whatever you call it

Ok fair enough. Did you post about the Gillard pork barrelling when it occurred or not ?

 

Not sure what you're accusing me off ... who on here is hiding what? I have no side

 

... what the **** has that got to do with the issue at hand? The fact that the current government is using taxpayer funds in a corrupt manner?

It was discussed on the precursor to PC - Somersoft - Search Results for Query: gillard | Somersoft

 

I rest my case.

 

We don’t seem to talk about all political and ideological sides much when it comes to corruption much in this forum.
All of us know that there are societal problems when it comes to nepotism and corruption right down to the individual family, small business and local government, our universities and politics. We recognise the problem and therefore we discuss what progress can be made by implementing a solution, and the solution with funding allocation is to detail the criteria that all funding should should be made so it is transparent that the funding was made according to the correct criteria. Then you have to ask what is the correct criteria and how does one order it in terms of importance. This is the solution.
We must also be mindful that there are many issues right now that challenge the notion of meritocracy that we seem to ignore in decision making including equality of outcome which is being legislated everywhere.

 

I think the point trying to be made is it is often blatantly obvious that one side of politics or an issue never calls out someone from their side doing something unsavory but as soon as someone on the other side of the spectrum does the same thing the blinkers come off and accusations fly thick and fast.

We see it all the time, "Trump is bad cos...." well Obama did the same thing and for 8 years you turned a blind eye, why are you so upset about it now?

 

On pork barelling, I wish I lived in a marginal or swing seat. Why would a government spend money on a strong seat (either way) as they either will generally still hold it or never gain it.

Its the swing seats that get the best

 

But this is not a solution if politicians are willing to overturn the decisions made according to transparent, defined criteria and reallocate funding according to political criteria -- which is exactly what happened in this case. The solution here is to hold politicians accountable.

 

Don't care which side does it. We need a strong federal ICAC.

 

Sadly the current government voted down - twice - to engage an independent body to oversee/investigate these sorts of instances. That means both/all sides will be free to jag the system willy nilly without accountability

 

exactly right, or minimise it

I posted a link way back which covers pollies and rorts from 1900, seems Labor government has outnumbered everyone in this regard
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Title of the thread is pork barreling... year, or who is in Government is irrelevant.

 

I love this

but if I posted this it would have been deleted by now....

 

With due respect... the topic/title of this thread is pork barreling.

Much dialogue on this thread is about government’s pork barreling on both sides, its all relevant

If you now think its off topic you probably need to delete most of the threads on here starting from post 3. Not much point to this

 

Regardless of the title - the original post was about the rorting in 2019. What "other" governments - or other members - have done in the past has no bearing on this thread which was 100% about the "sports rorts" and other current government pork barrelling.

That other governments have done the wrong thing in the past is just a stronger reason for there to be a federal government ICAC - which was rejected twice by the current government.

The only discussion on this thread about "both sides" is because there are a few people that insist on deflecting, blaming, accusing and otherwise attempting to take the thread off track.