Rorts - Pork Barrelling - whatever you call it

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  1. MTR

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    All parties ARE being called out very clearly .. just the latest and most blatant happen to be the LNP
     
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    They are now
     
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    All political parties are on a corruption unity ticket in this cartel we call Australian democracy.

    Think of unions, miners, sports rorts, travel rorts, allowance rorts, branch stacking, water theft and corruption, ALDI bags and all that; and self interested rent seeking in anything they can get their hands on. This traverses the political divide.

    What about old mate Bill? How did he not go to another place rather than contest a federal election to become PM after the revelations at the RC?

    Or equally nebulous, how does a certain former trade minister avoid the justice system when he was apparently contracted to become a 'consultant' to advise on trade matters for an organisation with strong links to the CCP? Whilst he was in Parliament and at about the time he was our federal trade minister!
     
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    That was a particularly egregious example.
     
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    Indeed. Remarkably, there were no consequences. I'd wager that it's just the tip of the iceberg.
     
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    I'm not smart enough to understand this.
     
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    Imagine if we had politicians working in Australia's interests.
     
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    Whataboutism isn't a defence. Your post is pure deflection from the actual topic.
    Whataboutism - Wikipedia
     
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    Agreed 100% ... just because one party did something a decade ago, doesn't excuse another party doing similar (or worse) now.

    If anything, due to higher scrutiny and the speed of social media, politicians need to be squeaker and even more transparent than ever before ... a lesson they don't seem to be learning
     
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    That would be true if I was defending misconduct from one side as a device to downplay culpability on the other side of politics by implying that 'they're all as bad as each other so it evens out'. That was not my intent but I can see how it might be viewed in that light.

    I agree with @Lizzie
     
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    It raises an interesting point -- given that shameless pork-barreling seems increasingly to be the norm, should we take this into account in property investment decisions? Properties in marginal electorates are more likely to be the beneficiaries of tax-payer funded local improvements in facilities and infrastructure. Does this mean that they will rise in value by more than properties in safe seats?
     
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    Sports rorts are nothing compared to Julia Gillard's spending spree in Rob Oakshotts', Tony Windsor and Andrew Wilkies electorate when she was trying to form a minority governemt.
     
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    As Julia Gillard is not currently in parliament, that's irrelevant. Sports Rorts are also nothing compared to what goes on in the US government -- again, irrelevant. "Nothing compared with..." does not mean that a rort should be ignored.
     
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    No what it highlights is the hypocrisy going on here to make such a large deal about it, that’s all.
     
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    Pretty sure a big deal of it was made at the time (from memory) ... there have been quite a few pollies even lose their jobs over rorting ... doesn't excuse the current lot just because "somebody else did it" in the past
     
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    Well you have to be consistent. It’s hypocritical to post about this but hide it when it’s committed by your own side, that’s all I’m saying.
     
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    It's wrong, whoever does it.

    Pollies are called out by the press - and while the press may be perceived as being anti government, it is their job to find misuse of position. It's a part of the checks and balances.

    The fact that the press found that Gillard's government found pork barreling shows that there is some value to the press in out democracy.

    Both sides are as bad
    Pork barrelling – who’s worse, the Coalition or Labor?

    One is still happening. That's relevant now. One happened years ago, and is not relevant now. But if there is a change of government, what the party in power then does will be relevant.

    It doesn't matter who you vote for. A politician always wins.
     
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