Roller shutters or crimsafe mesh on windows

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  1. Property God

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    I heard the price is simular (i always thought roller shutters would cost alot more). Is that true?

    So which one is more useful / add value to the house.

    Also if the answer is roller shutters, should i go manual or electronic. Electronic closes around 300 more per window.
     
  2. D.T.

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    Is it for a rental or for your own home?

    Shutters look kinda ugly but actually add a perceived and visible level of security for tenants. If your property is in a not so good area, tenants look at the security features of the home. We get this in our Salisbury homes often, where tenants consciously consider things like this.

    Crimsafe looks better, but doesn't really have the same effect as the above.

    If you do go shutters, I'd probably go manual. Electronic just adds an extra thing that can go wrong and you'll have to repair eventually.

    All of this is based on it being a rental though. You'll have very different requirements for your own home.
     
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    I wouldn't ever get Crimsafe!
    Not because of anything to do with price, look or safety (I don't know much about those), but because of their horrid ads. If they reflect the views of the owners at all, then I don't want them to have a single cent of mine!

    Probably a massive overreaction, but these ads really get to me.
     
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    When we built our new PPOR in Qld about 5+ years ago, we installed crimsafe (I think it might be one of its competitors) on all of our (opening) windows and doors

    It allows us to sleep peacefully at night and leave these windows/doors open to let the cool air enter the house but keeps the baddies out.
     
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    Roller shutters would make the house very dark and airless if closed during the day for security. And not desirable on hot summer nights when breezes are welcome.

    To my way of thinking, roller shutters and Crimsafe are entirely different products and not interchangeable.
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    Im gona be living in the home. Yea the area is in the middle interms of safty.

    Yea ill go manual rollers if i do. My concern for the grills is that it blocks out light. What do you guys with crimsafe think about the light blockage?

    Also if all shutters are down does it tell crookes that im not at home?

    Not sure which path i should go.
     
  7. Property God

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    I dont plan to have the shutters down when Im at home. Only when im at work and sleep. My bedrooms are upstairs and i dont plan to install anything for those as there is less risk of crooks climbing the roof just to get in.
     
  8. wylie

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    We have metal plantation shutters that allow breezes in and keep the baddies out. You can add insect screens if you want them.

    I think the last ones were about $800 per window?

    We have them on more than half our windows, and never close the windows generally, all year.
     

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    Roller shutters are the best for keeping heat out. And they are significantly more expensive than crimsafe mesh. 2 totally different products
    And with the motors you are looking at close to $1000 more for a 240v.but it will last 30 years.

    Shutters down during the day could mean anything - shift worker, heat cold, owl or just don't like the outside world

    DO NOT USE HALF PRICE OR MODERN
     
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    Whats half price abd mordern? Oh so meshgrill is cheaper than roller shutters? What about the manual wind ups, thet are 650 a window.

    If I was do get roller shutters would you recommend manual or electric? Which ones last longer?
     
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    They are companies that make shutters. They market themselves as a cheap solution usually in shopping centres etc. I think if you're price sensitive go for the manual ones. Will be cheaper initially and less can go wrong. If price isn't a issue, go electric.
     
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    Shutters, external screen and rollers etc - I would think they detract from value and if the property has major noise issues then shutters wont likely fix the issue - It a band aid on a severed artery. The noise issue already hampers the value. Noise leakage occurs under over and through and it may make it a bit better but still noise will occur.

    On a rental it could actually be a personal liability concern if you trap the occupants.
     
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    Why? Whats wrong with their ads? I don't like them either, but they don't annoy me that much either :)
     
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    The guy in the ad is the kind of person that makes the world a worse place, knowing everything better than his daughter, not liking his son in law because he's got a pony tail (and probably some other stuff I don't remember). He's definitely voting "no" in the plebiscite!
    Plus it's all scaremongering. The world is a safer place now than it was 30 years ago, not a less safe one as everyone would have you believe. And if someone wants to get into your house, a little bit of mesh isn't going to stop them.
     
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    This is true. A friend of ours had the security mesh put in and it didn't stop her being robbed. They simple jimmied and hacked at the surround it was screwed into.
     
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    Hmmm so shutters and crimesafe decreases your homes value? Why? Extra security is good.
     
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    Very true. But unless you're a specific target, it's usually opportunistic crime, so the aim is to make your place less desirable to rob than your Neighbours. Having a non expensive European car also helps as a detractor :D

    Much like this ad :)
     
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    Possibly the same reason that carrying a gun makes you less safe. If it looks like it needs the extra security, people are going to be put off.
     
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    I see you and I raise you, sir! :D

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    It really depends on WHY you want them - it's hardly ever an answer for "lets add value to the house", it's more of I want to be able to open my windows at night and feel safe answer.

    Roller shutters usually have a small slit at the edge of each panel so you can have ventilation. You have them slightly apart (but still safe) and fully shut and no ventilation slits. They are good for stopping heat coming into windows as well so can have some benefits in those instances but you can't look out properly unless they are up.

    Crimsafe/Security mesh is good if you want more ventilation and being able to see out. It generally still allows for an attractive look but if you have decorative windows/doors then you won't be able to see them as well as before. It generally just replaces flyscreen though so the area where the fixed panel of a window is, will still be a target for thieves who are happy to smash glass

    Between the 2 I prefer crimsafe, which is what we chose, but that is because I love light and just needed a secure flyscreen option that was also dog proof. All normal flyscreens on our sliding doors etc were no match for our dog and small children who would scratch or lean on the screens.

    If you go with roller shutters, I would go manual, as it's one less part to break and you can still open close if there is a power blackout. In the event of an emergency (ie fire inside) you need to get out of the house even if there is no power. If you live in a high fire risk (ie fire outside) then roller shutters are awesome and will prevent embers coming in more than security mesh
     
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