Yes, it has always been the case. Most will "want" something that someone else has (or aspire to) It is probably much worse for kids today with social media, being exposed to so many more options I mow lawns, when anyone walks past I stop (safety) I get a nod or a thankyou from the private school kids and mothers, most of the rest look down at me, business type's seem to walk slower for some (self important) reason I think they get to see both sides via social media these days, or via school with some less fortunate kids about. They may have divorced parents, one parent remarried and lives a nice life (decent house/cars) while the other rents a unit and struggles. This is our case, and of the 4 kids only 1 looks like they might aspire to be more than their dad ..... (he could easily be/do better, but doesn't "try" so neither do the kids, no matter how much we try to encourage them)
Not around here unfortunately - large concentrations of a couple of typically 'high achieving' stereotyped races outnumbering the Caucasians. Price tags of property in the area generally exclude the disadvantaged, essential workers or lower income earners due to restricted catchment areas.
Currently sending my daughter to a private Jewish daycare which goes all the way to year 12. The thing that makes me most happy (so far) is that all the kids seem to have a close bond and share the feeling of one large family, which is the environment I hoped would exist within this school walls. Also the teachers seem to be fantastic and caring. To a very large extent it feels like our home environment/culture and her school's environment is somewhat seamless. From what I hear there is a zero tolerance to bullying policy however after speaking to some parents whose kids are in years 7 and 10, they say they've never seen any major bullying in the school. Fingers crossed.
It can very much depend on demographic of the area. My daughter is a relief teacher, my eyes are wide open now.
I think it's natural for a middle classer to want to be richer or a poor person to want to be more comfortable and yes that will bring on some jealousy and might mean that the ones who are doing better get treated differently but that is an individual thing. An obnoxious rich person will be treated differently to a kind and considerate one. As for the jealous person, little people will use that jealousy in a negative way and might resent or treat the richer person badly while others will use that jealousy to better themselves in life and try and get to where the richer person is. Whether the rich person earned the money or not is no one's business, at least that's how i see it. Surround your kid and yourself with good and well meaning people and you won't have to worry about any of that.
Definitely. Doing our best. Over the years some may have seen it as being snobs. Has nothing to do with that. We don't care about your financial situation, race, politics etc. As long as you're a quality human being, we're happy to socialise. Hopefully we'll be seen as quality human being as well. Personally I think it's very important who we choose to regularly keep around us. And who we don't.
I have always liked the quote that goes something like: "It's easier for people to tear others down, than to lift themselves up" Explains a lot
This is so true. And imo, it's because we as humans all have insecurities. By negatively commenting on others, we attempt to make ourselves feel better. If being honest, most humans do this at times. But some do it to a disgusting level and frequency.
Ill share some of my experience's on this. My kids go to a private school. Nothing over the top but private non the less. There is a mix of families with most parents being in well earning professions. But with the private school costs and other high lifestyle expenses I think there are a significant number who are not necessarily struggling but don't have the ability to spoil their kids as much as they would like. This has lead to problems with my young one. I will admit that my kids have slightly more than most kids. I like to give them what they want. I think even with that they are still very grounded as we have worked hard to instill a sense of humbleness, kindness and appreciation for what they have. This has not stopped it causing problems for them with other kids. When a child has a new toy or gadget they are excited. They want to tell their friends about it and share the experience with them. They are not gloating or trying to show off. They are just an excited kid who wants to share with friends. Unfortunately this ends up upsetting some kids and they become resentful. This has resulted in friendships dissolving as a result. My advice was, while we don't want to rub the things we have in peoples faces, we also don't have to hide or not be happy and excited about the things we do have. And who ever has a problem with that can go **** them selves.
Back on topic... @Sackie go with your gut. You are good man, with good values. That doesn't always mean those values will pass down to your children. (I mean, children may not absorb what you are teaching.) Goodness knows, we have all either experienced seeing this play out in our own families or in families of friends. There's no guarantee. All you can do is try.
Thanks @wylie . And I agree, some parents who really gave their kids every opportunity in life with good upbringing....and sometimes the kids aren't such nice people. It's sad. I think (my guess) all we can do is hope to instil good values, raise them to be confident and resilient and then hope for the best. Also, mental illness is largely indiscriminate. Heaven forbid a kid develops a mental illness along their journey. I know some folks who were diagnosed with bipolar and schizophrenia. It changes everything. And all the lives involved.
Rich...wealthy. All semantics to me. No not my daughter, she's only 2. Referring to others who worked hard to achieve. Plenty of folks with less than 20m net worth living a fantastic/'rich' lifestyle and happy. At the end of the day ' wealthy' is subjective for most folks. For me, being financially wealthy means living life on your terms where money isn't an issue for anything you need/want. If that's 5m, 10m, 20m whatever for an individual, then in my books that's what makes you financially wealthy. I don't believe there's a fixed number.
I think, as you said, the haves & have nots gap has widened immensely & there are going to be a whole lot more have nots than haves... considering this is a property investment forum, most posters on here would probably be in the have pile. I don’t know what everyone else is seeing on the ground atm but I’m seeing a lot of people around me falling into the have not pile, my sisters boyfriend got the boot when job keeper finished, a neighbour that was evicted as the house was being sold, single mum with 6 kids has been living in a motel for 11 weeks now with no hope in sight for a rental, another friend is now living in his van as he also can’t secure a unit or the likes & also lost his job, he has tried to commit suicide twice in the past 3 months, he feels hopeless in this situation... many more stories like this, these are just the ones I know of personally. I feel there will be a lot resentment, not towards ‘rich kids’ though as there have always been wealthier families around, it’ll be more the fact that they have no hope, the gap will be too wide. It’s really wrong, it should never have come to this in a what used to be a great country like Australia. People are going to grow sick of it, there will be unrest.
Between friends and family I know about 10 teachers over 10yrs. 3 are casual/relief. They all say the same things, though the relief teachers more overtly. The ritzy suburbs are respectful and well behaved. The lower social economic one are the worst behaved. The private/religious schools kids are better behaved than the public schools. And some public school they fear for their safety, never in the private/religious schools. The casuals moved to the "ritzier" suburbs as they get allocated close to their home. Like or hate it, that's what it is.
There will always be some of this. Unavoidable. Its not that bad in aus. This ain't Russia where rich kids own football teams and show off as a matter of pride ( just dont **** with the govt there, else your tea will be laced with pulonium) ..aus is one of the more socialist democracies out there.
