Renovation Manager / Organiser??

Discussion in 'Renovation & Home Improvement' started by qet, 15th Feb, 2018.

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  1. qet

    qet New Member

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    Hi
    I'm looking for someone to plan and execute a renovation to a rental property. in the northern suburbs of Melbourne. Looking to continue renting the property after renovation.

    Does such a profession exist, and if so, what is it called?

    Essentially I'd like someone with a good network of tradespeople and a good eye for areas for improvement that will add rental value.
    Then I'd like them to line up all the work while the house is vacant.

    Things I'd like to cover:
    - minor landscaping
    - possibly a front fence
    - handyman jobs, fixing things here and there
    - painting
    - kitchen and bathroom upgrades
    - flooring fixes & upgrades
    - plastering repairs.

    Suggestions? Advice?

    Thanks!
     
  2. Scott No Mates

    Scott No Mates Well-Known Member

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    Project manager or a builder.
     
  3. Elives

    Elives Well-Known Member

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    on such a small scale, whats the difference between project manager and builder?

    i would have thought for renos it would just be a builder.

    Cheers, Elives
     
  4. Mel Morgan

    Mel Morgan Sydney Property Manager Business Member

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    Its generally a project manager, but I haven't come across many in Sydney (let alone Melb), especially those with an investor mindset. If only you were in Sydney then I could help.
     
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  5. WallyB66

    WallyB66 Well-Known Member

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    Given these are not major works, previously I've managed works remotely via a good PM- often they have these trades on their books. Emphasis is to be clear on the scope of works and have these inspected with pics taken for yourself prior to payment. This has worked for me with regard to execution of the works but at this point do you know what you want ie kitchen, bathroom design etc?
     
  6. Pumpkin

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    Do you have a Property Manager who can, and are willing to do this for you?

    I've just done one for a new client, minus kitchen Reno, plus replace carpet. I was able to do it because;
    - we are a boutique business
    - they are in the same Complex
    - we have lots of contacts and I'm good at multi- tasking
    - we charge some fees in procurement and supervision
    - he trusts me and I can make lots of decisions on his behalf.

    Hope that gives you an idea to proceed.
     
  7. D.T.

    D.T. Specialist Property Manager Business Member

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    We project manage renovations all the time. Fee involved, but beats having to travel to Adelaide.
     
  8. Scott No Mates

    Scott No Mates Well-Known Member

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    Where/when does it cross that line where you become the 'builder's or are required to effect insurances/void your other insurances?
     
  9. D.T.

    D.T. Specialist Property Manager Business Member

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    There's a dollar limit written into SA's legislation here and it rarely goes over that. On the rare occasion it has, a licensed builder was engaged to do the works and our role fell back to just liaising / coordinating /facilitating.
     
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  10. JDM

    JDM Well-Known Member

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    If it's just someone to organise trades then your PM should be able to assist, otherwise a builder should be able to assist. I doubt it would be worth engaging a project manager for that size reno but that would be the next step up.
     
  11. qet

    qet New Member

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    OK great, thanks for the replies everyone.

    Looks like I need to find a good property manager to handle it.
    I don't actually have a property manager for the place yet... but will start looking

    thanks
     
  12. qak

    qak Well-Known Member

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    Can I just ask at what point you stop using your PM and either organise it yourself or get a project manager/builder in?

    We have a structural repair job to do (sub $10K [hopefully :eek:])and have asked the PM to get quotes ... maybe I'm a control freak and/or I just like to know where everything is at, but I am thinking I would rather organise it myself ... plus I am wondering if trades would prefer to deal with owners or PMs?
     
  13. Dean Collins

    Dean Collins Well-Known Member

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    Im not sure PM's are really the people who should be taking on these projects.

    Really needs a project manager.

    Its frustrating as I have 4 ip's in Sydney that within the next few years I'm planning on replacing bathrooms/kitchen in each + complete internal paint jobs and Im finding it difficult to find someone who I can trust to communicate daily issues as they come up and be onsite dealing with tradies in a timely manor.

    Ideally we'd like to source all fixtures/materials/paints and buy in bulk to do all 4 within a 1 month period.