Renovating a kitchen and two bathrooms

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  1. hash_investor

    hash_investor Well-Known Member

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    Hi guys, I want to get an estimate of renovating two bathrooms and a kitchen. I am talking about Sydney.

    For a rough estimate lets say an average size and nothing fancy just everything new.
     
  2. euro73

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    Anything from 20-200k :)

    Depends what demo work is required but I would suggest allowing at least 5k to pay for 2 bathrooms and a kitchen to be completely stripped out and all rubbish removed . You can try to do it yourself but demolition work is tough and dirty work and it’s really time consuming - I can tell you that it’s well worth getting it done right so you can get on with the reno and minimise the time the rooms are out of action .

    From there .... do you want to move or add plumbing, electrical etc? With the bathrooms and kitchen stripped out there will never be a cheaper time to do it.

    Kitchenbroker in Pennant Hills will design a kitchen for $1500. You own the drawings and design . Then they will tender it out to several local kitchen companies and you can choose from them or you can take the drawings and organise yourself . Well worth it in my view .

    In Sydney , source your tiles at TFO Smithfield . Good range . Good prices . You will find it difficult to do better and really shouldn’t need to go elsewhere unless you want to get something higher end ...

    Good luck
     
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  3. Angel

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    Depends on the house - are you removing one hundred years of plaster and coal-fumes on brick, or just doing up an 80s house that will be easy-as to demolish. In the second scenario, you can get an ikea or kaboodle kitchen and design it for free on their website, and repaint the existing walls. Allow about $20k for the kitchen but the bathrooms will be someone else's guesswork. Do you intend doing any of the work yourself? That will make a difference, sometimes a big difference and other times only a minor difference.
     
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  4. Arnel

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    Hello,

    If your talking typical average in Perth for example.

    Houses built from 1980-2000,

    Average price for main bathroom $12-15k
    Full rip out
    Run for mixers
    Screed
    Waterproof
    Tiling skirt and shower recess ($2500 extra full height)
    Free standing bath
    Floating vanity 900mm
    20mm stone top
    Top mount basin
    Semi frameless showerscreen
    And all the other bits and bobs

    En-suite $8-10k
    Similar to above no bathtub and smaller area

    Kitchen $12-18k
    All depending hardware, number or drawers, stone choice, and size.

    Hope that helps.

    My advice get them all done at once and use that to negotiate. Seek value for money and done be so concerned about the initial price. You don’t want the cost to upkeep a poor product end up costing you more then if you choose a decent one in the first place

    Good luck :)
     
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  5. Mavis

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    we recently had a kitchen reno - costs will vary depending that whitegoods you are getting + costs of materials like tiles

    Kitchen - i went with a kitchen cabinetry mob and the cabinetry with stone top and small breakfast bar style was about $16K for install but this is a smallish kitchen and i went with plain doors.

    The 16K does not include building works (demo, asbestos removal, tiling, plumbing, electrical, plaster, paint)
     
  6. Hodor

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    I'm in Sydney and did 2 bathrooms and kitchen 2 years ago. IKEA kitchen was about 15k, about half the cost was stone benches so could do it much cheaper. That includes appliances.

    Can't remember the bathrooms. About 15 to 20k total. As above went to TFO as they were much cheaper than elsewhere. I went cheaper options for most things other than tap wear, seen the bunnies ones look terrible after a few years, worth spending more from what I was told, happy I did. Biggest expense was tiler (floor to ceiling )and plumbing

    Could go much cheaper if I wanted to save.

    I did a fair bit of work other than plumbing, sparky, tiler and asbestos removal.
     
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  7. ACH123

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    Get a number of quotations from different contractors.

    Based on my experience, including all the plumbing and electricity works, allow for 25k as the safest minimum. Bear in mind of any variations that might occur along the way.

    If you want to save a bit more money. I recommend doing the demolition and removal of waste yourself . And recycle or give out anything for free where possible, as fees to dump your waste can go up to $400 per tonne.
     
  8. neK

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    Don't bother with ikea or bunnings kitchens.

    A proper kitchen / cabinet maker will be able to a custom kitchen that actually fits and will install it for you for cheaper than ikea and bunnings.

    Had a kitchen for $9k for an IP. Poly doors, 40mm stone (quantum quartz ash gray), blum drawers and cabinets. Approx size was 2.4m x 3.3m.
     
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  9. elar

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    Hi all I was browsing the internet for options and found this forum/topic.

    I have bought and installed an Ikea kitchen in my apartment and I am quite happy with it for the price I paid. We have just bought a house and my wife would like to get shaker doors but I do not like the Ikea ones. Went to Freedom but I feel like the quality gap (backing and slightly better finishing) between them and Ikea/Bunnings does not justify paying 2-3 times the price. Thinking of going to Bunnings to have a look at Kaboodle.

    neK was wondering if you could recommend someone? Cheers.
     
  10. Rugz06

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    Nothing wrong with Bunnings products. Depending on the quantity and who is installing, might be best to get a professional. Might pay 20%profit for them, bur they take all the risk of getting something wrong when they site measure. Bunnings have a list of installers, these can be significantly cheaper.

    Also, as budget numbers:
    20k for a kitchen
    12k for a main bath
    10k for ensuite.
    Use as budget numbers for mid-high quality if you know how to shop around
     
  11. Coconutwheels

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    Bunnings/kaboodle is hard to go past imo, their range has exploded in recent years, also now offer custom cut/sized doors and cabinets. 10yr no hassle warranty on everything, lifetime on the carcas.

    I work as a handyman now (exclusively on IPs) one of the main things I like about them is the ability to replace damaged doors etc with off the shelf (or special orders) stuff from Bunnings.
     
  12. Sackie

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    Custom or not? I bet 90% of people couldn't tell. IKEA kitchen I put in earlier this year on a property before selling. Got my own Bosch appliances though. My own taps and tiling.

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    How much did this Ikea kitchen set you back?
     
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    Sackie Well-Known Member

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    Had a look, the joinery was $3764.
     
  15. Mill

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    Agreed

    At least get a kitchen / cabinet maker to quote to compare. I got a fully custom kitchen installed for similar price as a Bunnings kitchen. Much better quality and custom fit
     
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    Woah! I just draw my own up and take it to the kitchen company. Graph paper $5

    Ripping a kitchen out doesn't take long. A bathroom is pretty back breaking though.

    We do the kitchen ripout and install the new one ourselves most of the time.
     
  17. Phar Lap

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    Did this galley style kitchen myself, ripped out old and fitted new kaboodle.
    Included removing a wall that separated kitchen from dining to make it more open plan. Turned out much nicer than we thought it would, very happy. Easy as!
    Only thing I did do that saved like nearly $2k was got a non kaboodle benchtop made by a specialist. They did the large with external corner bench in one piece. Kaboodle was going to do it in 2 pieces with visible join and it was around $3k v's custom made bench one piece $1k cash.

    Found the backsplash tiles after agonising over several samples from Bunnings. Tiles cost under $50.
    Kaboodle kit incl dishwasher
    Existing stove/oven.
    New lights, sink, tapware etc.
    Softclose doors and drawers

    All up materials $7,842 incl $300 plumber made a small realignment of pipework.


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  18. mues

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    Had an ikea kitchen in. Fits almost perfectly. I have 1 filler panel of 4cm. Halved the cost of the cabinets.

    Bunnings cabinets quality is questionable however. So if you do it - do ikea.

    But I only did ikea cabinets. Everything else I did myself finding my own dudes. Didn’t always go cheapest. Went the guys I felt most comfortable with.

    I did 6-7k alone in stone tho.... so that’s the real cost increase. That and integrated fridge and washing machine boost your costs my a few k.
     
  19. euro73

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    Did none of this ourselves A man's got to know his limitations :)

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    Phar Lap Well-Known Member

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    What's questionable about Bunnings (Kaboodle) cabinets?
    I found them great, with same thickness backs as sides and pre drilled ready to screw together perfectly! Easy as pulling your socks on!