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Refugee kiddies in Nauru make a video "Get us out of here, please, I'm begging you!"

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  1. Beanie Girl

    Beanie Girl Well-Known Member

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    Whilst cruising The Age about Dick Smith and Bronwyn Bishop, I came across this video that Asylum seeker refugee children on Nauru made.
    Thought I'd share it. The little kids (aged 4-12) are in a group and speak with their own voices.
    Look out for a cute voiced kid who mimics how Nauruan native children tease them,

    "When I come to the school, the Nauruans said to me "Excuse me refugee, excuse me refugee!" Then they tell me. 'refugee, refugee, go to your country, here is our country.' All of the time, they fight us, they swear to us, they punch us. We didn't do anything. We go tell the principal, our principal says to us "I don't care...the Nauruans is their country..... I don't have to do nothing for you guys"

    The video is embedded in this newslink

    Refugee Children On Nauru: 'I'm Begging You, Get Us Out Of Here'
     
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  2. D.T.

    D.T. Adelaide Property Manager Business Member

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    Nauru isn't a prison, they're free to go whenever they like.
     
  3. Xenia

    Xenia Adelaide Property Manager Business Member

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    I'm a refugee in Australia, my family has created wealth and businesses that have helped to supply Australians with jobs multiple times over.

    You don't know who these people are and what they can do.
     
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    But DT, lets help these people in a positive way, perhaps it is a jail, imagine living like this, could you? Don't think that they are lucky think they deserve better, equal to us, why not??, they are suffering, We have so much, what do think?? seriously how would we know what they are going through could you imagine... We are so blessed in Australia surely we can help people.

    MTR:)
     
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  5. D.T.

    D.T. Adelaide Property Manager Business Member

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    I certainly couldn't, and blessed that I don't. This is the lucky country after all. But again, they're free to go if they don't like it there.
     
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    It is a cute video and those children seem like they have an awareness of where they want to be so perhaps they will end up in Australia.
    I agree that we should help all human beings too, share the love.
     
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    Have you been there DT?

    That is a really stupid comment to make.....let alone a very ignorant view!

    Do you really believe that the Australian govt is doing this very transparent on this issue? They are limiting media access...they are limiting media access. Because if the public found out what is really going on it would change.

    The other issue is keeping people in those conditions will eventually build resentment. If they are settled here....they could be damaged in some way or form. Guess where the next homegrown criminal or worse still looney will come from???

    I think Australians have become very very selfish....20 plus years of economic growth has made us not appreciate what we have. I think a recession would sort this out very quickly...the last one ended 25 years ago.....
     
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    How did you arrive here? (I won't get an answer because I'm on ignore)

    When you arrived, did you have to go through all the usual processing measures that these folks are?

    No-one is denying these folks the chance to come to Australia...but there are processes in place for all refugees and would-be immigrants to follow.

    If they arrive here by people smuggler boat (and manage to survive the journey); they are then transferred to offshore centres for processing.

    I don't know that the refugees know this when they hand over their money to the people smugglers - I'm tipping they are told they are heading for Shangri-La.

    These off-shore places are not The HIlton. But they have shelter, basic amenities, food water...better than where they have come from I suspect. So; it's time to be grateful and patient and hopeful; they are not owed anything.

    If they can afford to pay a people smuggler to bring them here by boat, they could possibly afford to be able to apply through the correct channels and eventually come by a proper boat or plane.

    That is the system we currently have.

    Is it perfect? No.

    But; neither was the Country these folks are running from...that is not our fault and we owe them nothing; but we do help them as much as possible.

    Can we do more? No doubt.

    Our option is a bloody sight better if you ask me.
     
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  9. Azazel

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    I think they should send them home as soon as possible.
    I'm sure the video is made for sympathy purposes, sure kids shouldn't be in detention. But if they're not coming here, they should go home.
     
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    I suspect you have a bit of a conspiracy theory mentality about all this.

    I agree with the transparency though; allow all media to go in and record everything they see.

    BUT; they then have to air every single piece of footage and audio they make - with no editing.

    And this is the problem; and I suspect why the Gubb is restricting access.

    Civ Lib bleeding heart handwringers always seize upon this aspect of everything and turn it into a circus, apportioning blame left, right and centre.

    The original post was already along those lines; the perpetrators were folks from Nauru - not Australia...but watch the handwringers turn it onto the evil do-nothing Gubb's fault, and how these folks are suffering because of the Gubb's actions (or lack of action in the handwringer's mind).

    Regardless of how good the place actually is or isn't; let's be honest; they are basic amenities and will always look less than enticing.

    I've stayed in Youth camps as a kid and all this sort of thing; they are very basic but liveable.

    This is pretty much what these folks are offered...it is way better than running form persecution, living on the ground or in a tent, etc I would wager.

    Kids from every Country and generation I have ever had experience with are the same the world over - will tease other kids - but will also repeat what their surrounding elders say...maybe the blame rests with the adult Nauruans?
     
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    They can't go home; they will probably die.

    So; the option is to stay there, wait to be processed, and cop it.
     
  12. D.T.

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    It isn't "detention", they're certainly allowed to go, but you're right about the above.

    Unfortunately some have lost their ID (and some of those deliberately) which just makes the process take longer.
     
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    Youth camp =/= Immigration detention centre.
     
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    Yeah I don't know about that.
    Real refugees don't have the funds to travel through several perfectly good countries to get to Australia.
     
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    I've crewed on the Mirabella V, it was very basic but liveable. Surely their little boats can get them back to wherever they came from...
     
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    Ah yes. Real refugees.
    A bit similar to how the British convicts didn't travel half way around the world to Australia.
    Or the Italians and Greeks post WW2.
    Or the Vietnamese post Vietnam War.

    Cos back in those days, Australia was so much closer to those war torn countries.
     
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    Like my Dad.
    Yes it was war torn Europe post WWII.
    Yes they still followed the correct processes.
     
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    Bayview, the kids are being hit by the teachers, they are being hit by the other kids
    A school teacher has been reported to be sexually harassing the asylum seeker children according to the article.

    If your kids were in a school where they were being hit by the teachers and kids constantly and sexually abused by the school teachers and the principal did nothing about it and told you to your face, 'I don't have to do nothing for your kids'
    Would you say that your kids have to 'cop it sweet' and it's 'really just a youth camp'?
    Would you still leave your kids in a place like that, ask yourself that question.
     
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    Quote from Huffington Post
    "I have no friends here... [Australian] kids can go to movies, can get everything. kids here don't have playgrounds or anything"

    O dear. Did they go to the movies back in Pakistan or Indonesia?

    If the children don't like the conditions in the local school, they can do what all Australian kids do. Exercise the right for their parents to home school them. What did the Jewish kids in ghettos and concentration camps do? They didn't go to the movies but older kids and adults still schooled younger kids as long as possible.
     
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  20. Angel

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    I just googled Mirabella V. I thought TD meant the ferry to Stradbroke Island.