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Property shorting?

Discussion in 'General Property Chat' started by ms420, 7th Jul, 2016.

  1. ms420

    ms420 Active Member

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    is it possible to short the current Sydney property market either as a commodity or REIT or something like that? If it is possible to short it, would you do it?

    On a separate topic, I had written down a list of parameters that could drive the price down (the potential causes for property being sooo hot) to create a buying opportunity:
    1. Labour coming to power
    2. Abolishing or rule changes for negative gearing
    3. Chinese investment moving out of Sydney (to Melb, GC etc)
    4. Regulations tightening/ Higher deposit/ documentation requirements for investors without local income
    5. Borrower fraud crackdown- fraudulent documents, salary proofs etc
    6. Apartment over supply affecting prices and market sentiment
    1 and 2 will not happen seeing the election results. What's your thoughts on the rest?
     
  2. barnes

    barnes Well-Known Member

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    Shorting property is easy. You sell everything, prices drop - you buy again, the process of shorting is complete. :)
     
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  3. House

    House Well-Known Member Premium Member

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    Short the banks with the highest resi mortgages (preferably in Syd and Melb). AUD and big retailers too. Not sure if possible but maybe REIT's?

    There are betting agents that take bets on increase and decrease based on ABS stats.

    Call APT Capital Management, they're shorting for a housing crash this year.
     
  4. ms420

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    I don't have anything to sell... If I did, I would follow your advise ;)
     
  5. ms420

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    Seriously???
     
  6. hammer

    hammer Well-Known Member

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    Well in that case you're already kinda shorting. Keep saving and purchase post crash.
     
  7. House

    House Well-Known Member Premium Member

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    About APT? Yup. This was back in Feb/March I think. Around the time Bubble Bogeyman #85 was out and about (Tepper) :rolleyes:
     
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  8. aushousingcrash

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    Genworth mortgage insurance, and itraxx Aust CDS index