Property expense invoices for properties under family trust

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  1. Freedom Seeker

    Freedom Seeker Well-Known Member

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    For a property under a family trust with a corporate trustee, which of the following 4 options the invoices from the tradies should address

    Option 1: xxx Pty Ltd ATF xxx Family Trust
    Option 2: xxx Pty Ltd
    Option 3: xxx Family Trust
    Option 4: John Smith

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    Terry_w Lawyer, Tax Adviser and Mortgage broker in Sydney Business Member

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    Clean Cookie Well-Known Member

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    It make far more sense to be number 2 but I was told otherwise from my accountant previously... I'll have to follow that up with her later on in the week when I see her. I've learnt a lot from your posts but still a long way to go!
     
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    Terry_w Lawyer, Tax Adviser and Mortgage broker in Sydney Business Member

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    what is the legal entity?
     
  6. Clean Cookie

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    The company.

    I guess what you're eluding to is the company is legally responsible and at the business end of any transaction. Therefore there's no need to specify on the invoice it's actions are as a trustee as that's irrelevant for this sort of transaction.

    Correct?

    I feel severely inadequate when reading your replies - although super informative!
     
  7. Ross Forrester

    Ross Forrester Well-Known Member

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    The primary importance is that the invoice clearly outlines the property that has work on the property on it.

    tradies can stuff it up and the ato know this. What is important is that the work was done on the relevant property (and not your family home).
     
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    Terry_w Lawyer, Tax Adviser and Mortgage broker in Sydney Business Member

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    If you are acting as trustee there is no legal need to tell anyone really. It generally won't hurt though.
     
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    Paul@PAS Tax, Accounting + SMSF + All things Property Tax Business Plus Member

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    Actually it wont matter who name is on the invoice. The trust however must incur and pay the expense. o_O Paying it personally may be fatal to any deduction, depreciation or costbase issues. But if the trustee reimbursed that personal and incurs the cost then all is fine. Doesnt matter that the invoice has Mr Smiths name on it.

    I agree too on Ross's view that the detailed nature of what works and what property are important as well. The ATO regularly find invoices issued to property owners that openly describes works performed at other property (eg the beneficiary home). And even invoices that deliver specific assets elsewhere. eg Not to the QLD IP but to the Melbourne home of the owner.
     
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    Thank you all for your help.
     
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