Project homes - Eden brae

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  1. dan2101

    dan2101 Well-Known Member

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    Hey all,

    Just looking to put a project home on a development block on the central coast. Single storey. Budget is about $270k.

    Had a look at a few from Eden brae and liked their designs.

    Anyone have any horror stories or positives for any of the project home companies?

    Extras to look out for/take into consideration?

    Cheers!
     
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    @dan2101 - Eden Brae are known to be one of the good ones. Recently built with Metricon. Not the cheapest, however we got quality results. At the end of the day, it will come down to your site manager.

    Your budget seems to be on the lower end. Are you looking to do any upgrades? They don't include most electrical costs in the base cost. Are site costs included in this price?

    Is this for IP or to live in?

    Have you taken into account the budget for post hand over jobs such as : further electricals, blinds, security doors and landscaping?
     
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    Thanks msali,

    Budget is basically just for the build (not including blinds etc. I've noticed they have 2 prices - one just for the build that doesn't include any site costs, floor coverings, Basix, outdoor areas then another price with some extras.

    The budget is just the build. We have additional funds for the subdivision, landscaping and driveway as we have the skills to do this ourselves. Basically just after the basic build then we will add soMe extras ourselves.

    We are just flipping this property so just want a finish that is good enough to pass the inspection of the average joe off the street.

    What's the build time normally. I know what they quote but is this the reality or is it likely to blow out?

    Thanks!
     
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    @dan2101 - Eden Brae would be up there I believe and would float the boat for an average Joe.

    Typically builders say 32 weeks build period + 5 weeks x-mas shut down period + rain days. Though I'd imagine single story ought to be much faster!!

    Our costs didn't blow out from what the builder said - especially things like site costs. It depends if your area is flooded etc? Would you need extra height or retaining walls?

    The only things that really can be called a blow out were the tiles as we didn't like the basics they were offering.

    Check out the Home One forum - tho mostly home owners there.
     
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    While I haven't had any dealings with them recently, from what i know, Eden Brae is one of the rare builders who provide a complete build price. Once the contract is signed I believe you are not up for any additional charges or variations. If I was to build again I'd go with EB or Rawson
     
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    Great thanks @MsAli

    You hear the horror stories but I've heard mostly positive things about Metricon and Eden brae.

    Seems like a fairly reasonable build time which would have it ready by next spring once it all goes trough council.

    It's not flood prone but we'd possibly need to build a retaining wall all at the bottom of the bloke as air has a slight slope. We'd probably sort that ourselves.

    Thanks for the tips I'll definitely check the website!

    Thanks
    Dan
     
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    Thanks @beachgurl thats what I like too. Seemed like a solid price unless you chose better finishes down the track.
     
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    I have been doing Eden braes framing since they first started. They are a good company to work for and look after their trades which makes the trades care more about the job. They do have some nice designs. I would buy an Eden brae myself and I know a few people that have them already and are happy with them.
     
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    Brian - do you do private builds also?
     
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    I do private work as in framing of new homes. I am not licenced yet to do the whole build, but I am in the process of doing my builders licence course and should have it by early next year.
     
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    Eden Brae are one of the better ones...........BUT..........all project builders are dodgey....quick builds and working on numbers.
     
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    How are all project home builders dodgey?
     
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    You do the framing for a project builder. Framing one of the most important things during a build. Please tell me what timber is used?

    Most of the gyprockers are bad,tilers....etc. Most trades that work for project builders are 2nd tier. No good tradie will work for a project builder..........because the good ones are earning good coin without doing 500 homes a year like a slave.
     
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    That is the most stupid thing I have heard. So first of all your saying I'm a bad Tradie.

    I do project home work because I have work everyday of the week and I don't have to chase work or quote jobs.

    Yes the timber used in the framing isn't as good as Oregon but you get what you pay for. It doesn't mean that every single tradie or project home builder is dodgey.
     
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    Great. One of my ex colleagues does builds and may be keen to network with you if you're open.
     
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    A good carpenter does cut on site. A good carpenter will charge good money.............a project builder will never pay good money. A good carpenter will have builders ringing him for work not other way around.
     
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    Sounds great. Feel free to send me a message and I will get in contact whenever they are ready.
     
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    Did you read my last comment. It says I don't have to chase work, which means they ring me. I'm earning pretty good coin so I'm not complaining.
     
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    I can do cut onsite as well.
     
  20. Property Twins

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    Our neighbour does frames. He said he walked through our site when the frames were done and he was really impressed....so seems like a blanket statement to assume all trades won't be good.
     
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