PPOR to IP, no offset, only redraw

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  1. jprops

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    Isn't that what he said?
     
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    I thought they owned it 50/50. One party, A, would gift 50% to the other party,B. A would then buy 100% Off B via a loan with offset. B would place cash into offset until purchase of next PPOR. current ppor becomes investment with loan that is claimable.
     
  3. Terry_w

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    Stamp duty two more times if that happens
     
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    Oh wow. Cheers for clarifying that.
     
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    Who should I seek advise and clarification?
    Tax accountant?
    Do they give written advice (for a fee, of course)
     
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    Terry_w Lawyer, Tax Adviser and Mortgage broker in Sydney Business Member

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    Depends what you want clarified. Only lawyers can advise on stamp duty, both lawyers and tax agents can advise on income tax.
     
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    So if i buy a ppor and then after a few years decide rent elsewhere. I can’t covert the property into an IP later to have interest deductible?
    Or is having an offset the only way around this?
     
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    No. Not sure where you got that from but if the loan relates to the property the interest would be deductible once it was rented.
     
  10. Paul@PAS

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    Provided the borrowed funds were used to construct, purchase or maintain the dwelling the renting will mean that from that date :
    1. The costbase will reset to the market value on that date for CGT purposes
    2. If you dont reside in another dwelling you (or spouse) own then the 6 year absence rule might apply; and
    3. The loan interest, along with other ownership costs, would commence to be deductible. Past LMI etc could even be partially deductible too.
     
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    So that's only if I redraw from the existing ppor to buy the next ppor the interest is not deductible. If I move out and rent a house as ppor and also rent out my existing ppor then the interest is deductible?
     
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    Terry_w Lawyer, Tax Adviser and Mortgage broker in Sydney Business Member

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    Interest is deductible if it relates to the purchase or improvement of an income producing asset.
    So if you borrowed against your house to go on a holiday and you move out of hte house the interest won't be deductible./
    But if you borrow to buy and house, and have no redraws, then the interest might be deductible if you later rent out that house.
     
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    Because I am potentially going to buy a PPOR, live in it, after a period of time I may move out to rent another place. Then rent my out as an investment property. I wanted to know if I could get access to the 7 year PPOR rule for this property. And if I move out, can I deduct interest payments from the loan incurred after date of moving out?

    I understand if I move from 1 PPOR to another which I or spouse owns the 7 year rule won't apply to the same property.

    Cheers
     
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    Terry_w Lawyer, Tax Adviser and Mortgage broker in Sydney Business Member

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    There is no 7 year rule. You might be referring to the 6 year rule? This only relates to CGT and doesn't change deductibility of interest.

    Get some proper tax advice
     
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    Yes you are correct. But I am still wondering if tax is deductible on interest in the situation I described.
     
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    Terry_w Lawyer, Tax Adviser and Mortgage broker in Sydney Business Member

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    Whether you use the 6 year rule or not has no affect on deductibility of interest
     
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    I understand, I'm just asking for clarification for this part

     
  18. Terry_w

    Terry_w Lawyer, Tax Adviser and Mortgage broker in Sydney Business Member

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    I've answered that several times
     
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