PPOR or another IP

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  1. Galaxy

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    Hi everyone,

    Long timer lurker, I am now in a situation that could really use advice from the good people of PC!

    I currently own 2 IP (both are apartments), looking to buy another property but unsure if I should buy a PPOR or another IP. My situation and current reasoning is as follows

    - 2 IP currently valued between $400-$500k, LVR ~80%, one is negative geared, one neutral. The neg gear one has increased nearly $100k in value. The other one I plan to hold.

    - If I buy another IP, I am looking at Geelong, Frankston for something in the vicinity of $500k - $600k.

    - If my next purchase is PPOR (which I am more inclined towards), I want to look for a house in good condition; though townhouse will do if a good one comes along. I would like to rent it out for a while to help with loan repayment; and move in at some point (currently living at home). My budget for the PPOR is $800k, I would like to buy in the south east suburbs and I am aware that I won’t be spoiled with options.

    Even though I would like to hold both of my IP’s, I am also open to selling one that has increased in price (currently negative geared), because I think it’s unlikely to get much higher, for instance $600k for a 2 bedders, considering the oversupply in Melbourne (feel free to comment on this)

    Could you please advise:

    - Is now a good time to buy my PPOR given the peak in Melbourne and my preference is south east. And if so, with my budget I am open to a townhouse (as small as ~300sqm, better if bigger), would you advise against buying such small land?

    - Is it a good time to sell my IP? It would be ideal for a first home buyer ( 2 bedrooms apartment, good location in south east Melbourne) and I anticipate starting July 1, this market (small and medium apartments) will be hot considering the help FHB are getting.

    -Anything else I might have missed :)

    Thanks
     
  2. Terry_w

    Terry_w Lawyer, Tax Adviser and Mortgage broker in Sydney Business Member

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    1, crystall ball material
    2. same, but it would also depend on your istuation
    3. yes, heaps.
     
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  3. Galaxy

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    Thanks @Terry_w, can you please give a few pointers on this one?
     
  4. Ross Forrester

    Ross Forrester Well-Known Member

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    Any opinion you get will be pure speculation.

    I think your main driver here will be your own personal desire to own the home you live in. You can make a case to rent the place you live in. But do not discount the value some people enjoy knowing that the dirt they stand in is their own dirt.
     
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  5. Jamie Moore

    Jamie Moore MORTGAGE BROKER - AUSTRALIA WIDE Business Member

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    Market movements aside - if your borrowing capacity isn't excellent....and you have a desire to own a PPOR at some point in the future then I wouldn't add IP's to the portfolio right now.

    Additional debt will reduce your servicing - so consider getting your PPOR now rather than accumulating a third IP and being told that you've hit a serviceability wall when you go for your PPOR loan.

    Cheers

    Jamie
     
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  6. Galaxy

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    Thanks @Ross Forrester, I didn't realize I was asking for too specific answers, as Terry has put it - crystal ball material :oops:

    Likely I will look to buy a PPOR since I do want to own the place I live in.

     
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  7. Galaxy

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    That's a very good point, thanks for raising this @Jamie Moore. Now that's more logical to go down the PPOR path, and then draw out equity for a third IP in the future if/when serviceability allows.
     
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