Positive gearing... What am I missing here?

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  1. The Y-man

    The Y-man Moderator Staff Member

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    ...or getting into an A-REIT with internal gearing.

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  2. Beano

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    You may have to look at Commercial for a positive yield as residential is hard to achieve today .
     
  3. TMNT

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    1 point that will put a reality check in to all things "positive gear" is

    - Term deposits are guaranteed interest, no ifs no butts (ignoring tax) but income through rent, has
    • management fees
    • repairs
    • vacancies
    • insurance
    • leasing fees
    • advertising fees
    • monthly account fees
    • potential legal fees
     
  4. C-mac

    C-mac Well-Known Member

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    Vanguard are also opening up a low-fee-cost index fund product in Australia that could be interesting for a cash-flow easy asset.
     
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  5. KinG3o0o

    KinG3o0o Well-Known Member

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    if u want some real yield or gains, stock market and commercial property is where it at,
     
  6. Lacrim

    Lacrim Well-Known Member

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    Haven't owned a property have you?

    Parking depreciation/tax refunds and unlucky repairs aside and heaven forbid, land tax....a 1 min illustration is:

    Interest only scenario
    Purchase prce $500,000
    Rent 4% yield $20,000
    Rates, strata, repairs, water etc etc $7,000
    Interest only repayments @ 3.5% $ 18,200

    Net cashflow pa -$5,200


    P&I scenario
    Purchase prce $500,000
    Rent 4% yield $20,000
    Rates, strata, repairs, water etc etc $7,000
    P&I repayments @ 3% $ 26,308

    Net cashflow pa -$13,308

    Now imagine you have 5 or 10 of these babies, and they're all on P&I.
     
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  7. John_BridgeToBricks

    John_BridgeToBricks Buyer's Agent Business Member

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    Lacrim, you make a good point. I would add that lowering the LVR by being on P&I does make it easier to refinance down the line. Bad for cash flow, good for equity, and being equity rich does give you more choices down the line.
     
  8. Lacrim

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    Yeah I don't know when you hit that sweet spot, but am guessing its well after the first 10 years before you start making heavier inroads into the IP mortgages.
     
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