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Discussion in 'Development' started by Big Daddy, 18th Jun, 2016.

  1. Big Daddy

    Big Daddy Well-Known Member

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    What are the approx prices (turnkey with titles incl demo) for building in Perth Metro (mid 2016)? (assuming flat rectangular site)

    1)High end Single Storey 3x2 brick/tile (b/t) ~ 160sqm site coverage (living plus garage but excl porch and alfresco)? eg Yokine spec villa (31c. 900mm appliances, stone everywhere, 600x600 tiles or wooden floor, tiled to ceiling bathrooms etc)
    2)Med Single Storey 3x2 b/t ~ 160sqm site coverage (living plus garage but excl porch and alfresco)? eg Morley spec villa

    I think these are the prices for SBD's based on Myfs build
    Single Storey Framed SBD : 150k
    Double Storey Framed SBD : 200k
    Single Storey b/t SBD : 160k
    Double Storey b/t SBD : 220k
    Triple Storey High End 3x2 b/t + study ~ 160sqm : 450k to 500k
     
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    What is SBD?

    too open ended to answer imo, the figures would be greatly affected by:

    - how many are being built (eg 1 standalone 3x2 behind an existing home vs 3 vs 5 etc). also, the say 40k on demo, titles etc spread out on only 3 means up to 15k each there, I don't see how 150k would be possible, that means 135k for 160sqm, i wouldnt be comfortable doing a feaso relying on pulling off such a result.


    - design - eg are we actually talking high end or just stock standard with higher specced appliances? the former can cost a fair bit more if you're talking stronger architectural features, eg feature cladding of some kind, non standard box, raked ceiling, clerestory windows, actual money on design in the first place etc). the latter is literally taking a morley villa, giving it higher ceilings in some parts, using more and more expensive tiles appliances etc, basically there is zero high end about it. that's fairly easy to work out the extra on vs standard.

    - to follow on the above - a triple storey home on 160sqm could only be justified in pretty expensive inner or possibly coastal areas where it's worth going the extra floor vs a 3x2 with 2 living areas on 2 storeys in a pretty regular townhouse style format. if that's the case an actual high end one off 3 storey home for 450k including demo, turnkey would not work. it would mean compromising way too much on design, features and fitout etc unless you're doing say 5 in a row terraced and being extremely frugal with design.

    ultimately the figures are changing all the time so best way would be to disxuss with a builder specialising in such product and get some fairly accurate ballparks on jobs they're currently quotING on or just signed up.

    just beware that at the bottom end you're often comparing apples and oranges and also that buyers out there are quite strongly rejecting generic copy and paste product atm or demanding decent discounts and with good reason imo.

    high end even within a suburb should mean high liveability, being design and occupant focused and yes, some nice things. high end in the future will no longer automatically be just the same but upspecced
     
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  4. Big Daddy

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    Thanks Sanj. Very detailed and knowledgeable response .Yes you just can't build any crap and throw some stone in it and expect people to fall for it.
    Sbd = single bedroom dwelling of max 70sqm

    I'll get you a few pics of what I think is high end
     
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    For your number one I have just been quoted $620,000 turnkey blah blah blah for 3 townhouses on one site...... high end single story blah blah blah
     
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    What's with the 'blah blah blah'?
     
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    another way of saying "the usual ****"
    rather than elaborate and say single level, high spec, stone, etc etc
     
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    The problem is without context a figure really means nothing.
     
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    Yeah I was just thinking that.

    620k for 3 townhouses? Are they 120sqm townhouses, or 200sqm townhouses? How many bedrooms, bathrooms?

    'Blah blah blah' is as relevant as the statement itself.
     
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    exactly. I suspect some people think I'm too pedantic or ask too many questions re such matters but ultimately if we're here to share info, knowledge etc then it's hard to deny that a price without context means nothing.

    like you said, what size townhouses(or villas like it sounds like), what is high spec? fair standard shape, rooflines etc or something more architectural?
     
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    Now that i re-read his post, imo 620k for 3 townhouses seems way too cheap. :p
    I had assumed it was 3 single levels
     
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    I was responding to his number 1

    1)High end Single Storey 3x2 brick/tile (b/t) ~ 160sqm site coverage (living plus garage but excl porch and alfresco)? eg Yokine spec villa (31c. 900mm appliances, stone everywhere, 600x600 tiles or wooden floor, tiled to ceiling bathrooms etc)


    Sorry Sanj for the short description. To be honest I thought if Big Daddy wanted some further information on the prices I have just obtained he might want to personal message or ask for further information.

    He / She was asking for an approximate build price on a certain product. I gave him an approximate build price on a certain product. Just throwing an extra number out there trying to be helpful....... Without putting the exact contract on here and all amendments I suppose we can't compare apples with apples. I agree that more information is helpful but I'm fairly confident the detail in my answer matched the detail in the question :) Been a long day and its a Sunday!!!!!

    This is similar product give or take..... read: same builder

    Sold Price for 433C Karrinyup Road Innaloo WA 6018
     
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  15. Cruskits

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    So my price is officially mid spec

    That looks really expensive. The finishes that is.... If you go on the different council websites you can see how much it cost to build a certain development. Something I enjoy looking at when looking at developments..... It also links you back to the builder in most cases...
     
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    I had an interesting conversation with a young man from here who had some pricing from a development company that seemed far too low to me. They had quoted him $165k per 3 bedroom villa with a mid spec. Frankly I was astounded and advised MUCH caution.
    Later he showed me the design and it made more sense. They weren't terrible (they were quite good) designs but they were economical - for example nothing was built to boundary except the garages which meant less fire rated walls were needed and those walls certainly increase the price.
    By not building to the boundary it also meant lots of unusable space - a lot of 1000 and 1500mm from boundary skinny areas.
    So price was low, it still met the brief BUT a better design would have achieved more outdoor space and more functionality, however it would have cost more.
     
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    I find that everyone lies on their construction costs for DA as that reduces their DA fees. Also it's construction only not anything else - no floor coverings, landscaping, blinds, painting etc
     
  19. boeman

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    This spec probably wouldn't even be high end anymore either IMO. This would be minimum spec I would have thought for a developer to be the point of difference to get the interest?

    Appliances, stone tops and tiling is all cheap these days. The higher ceilings would be your highest cost but would still be a minimum expectation from most.
     
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    You kind of can't lie any more. They have the building guys and gals review the DA prices nominated every now and then and you can actually get backcharged.

    The DA fee calculator excludes siteworks, connections, finishing and GST. So maybe not a lie?