Paris

Exactly my point. Where is the outrage? When the US commits a war crime and bombs a neutral hospital killing 22 people. People justify by saying it was a 'mistake' or it was just 'collateral damage'.

Even wars have rules.

Kunduz hospital attack: how a US military ‘mistake’ left 22 dead

 

Did you do that every time a white guy killed a group of people?

Did you contact the media, take time out of your day to get a film crew around?

Or did you just go about your life, because you have as much say on what nutters on the other side of the world do as you have on gravity?

Where were you when Anders Brevik was murdering teenagers? Why weren't you saying not in my name?

Where were you when Adam Lanza killed 20 first graders and 6 teachers? Why didn't you take to the streets, saying you in no way supported the killings?

Where were you when Wade Page killed sikhs outside their temple for no other reason than he thought they were Muslims?

The list goes on and on.

Why should the 1.5 billion Muslims in the world be held to a higher state of moral culpability than white, western males?

 

What ?? No hes not.

As bad as they are.. ISIS still wouldn't be in the top 100 threats to the average Australian. Seemed to be some unwarranted paranoia (probably media driven) when I was last there. I'd be more worried about great whites and funnel webs.

 

Haha. Sounds like you've been drinking the Donald Trump and Republican Party kool-aid.

 

Errmm...

No he's not.

The way a number of far right media commentators always say "Barack Hussein Obama" you might think so, but it's 100% factually inaccurate and does you know favours to parrot this line.

 

Well there ya go; I was wrong about that one.

Let's blame this; https://www.google.com.au/search?q=...&oe=utf-8&gws_rd=cr&ei=SBxJVvuhJuWQmgWu7Z-ACg

 

Not so; I get ads on my page all the time from various places/folks. Bloody annoying. The Muslims can afford a few ads I'd wager....

Figure of speech.

I said "Down with Isis" not "Death to Isis" by the way...

But hey; as I said earlier; you won't do much good with Kumbaya with this lot. The horse has bolted; get the free world to kill the current lot, and get the Leaders of the religion to educate the kids coming through before they get radicalised; if it's possible.

Again; figure of speech. I already said I don't know their titles etc or their various divisions.

All that religious stuff bores me to tears, and is a total waste of time in a short life we have...rather get out in the sunshine and enjoy myself.

Whatever the title; get the relevant blokes out there saying stuff LOUDLY and OFTEN - for a change.

 

Muslim organisations have widely denounced the attacks. This one in Spain
http://mezquitadesevilla.com/comunicado-de-la-comunidad-islamica-en-espana-14112015/

 

sorry but i find this really silly...

for example.. im pretty sure WW2 was NOT based on Religion...in fact i would love to know what Hitlers beliefs were..

How about black slavery? was religion also the root cause of that?

two immediate thoughts that came to mind when i saw that post

happy for google experts here to correct me.


my point being:

imho ...depending on what our political leaders will decide in the next few months ...we are slowly entering a proxy war (or already in it !!) and potentially WW III

this attack on Paris could simply be the trigger ( as with the assassination of Franz-Ferdinand ???)

 

You are wasting your time trying to make me feel guilty, Andrew.

Noone wants to rid the Earth of sub-humans more than I do.

Look, you can pick a million different nutjobs who have been out and about killing innocent folks en masse, every week of the year for centuries.

The current topic of this thread is Isis.

Random acts by individuals with a warped mind are horrible, but are not endangering the entire world. Isis is a large, highly organised body who are intent on taking over the world, and have the resources to commit endless attacks across the Globe...a bit different to yer one-off mass murderer.

Hence; I'm giving my 2c worth on that mob and that topic, and the religion they represent..

I will be just as vocal on the next mass murder if and when the topic arises on this forum.

How about we start a thread about US gun laws? Watch me go hell-for-leather on that one.

 

Has anyone seen a public response of denouncing and condemnation on the Aus teev yet?

 

Did someone on here just actually claim obama is muslim?

I want to make sure my eyes arent playing tricks on me


What happened is horrific and not in any way, shape or form acceptable.

Making ludicrous things up like obama is muslim (not that it should be in any way relevant ) and the muslim communitu haven't condemned this does not do any good whatsoever.

 

I'm no trying to make you feel guilty.

I'm asking you why you seem to hold Sayed the accountant from Port Macquarie to a higher moral standard than Bob the lawyer from Townsville?

 

It's hardly a comparison, and you know that.

Why do you bring up ridiculous twists like that? Makes no sense.

If Bob the lawyer from Townsville was the head of a religion that has a faction that has spread across the Globe killing indiscriminately and he then was seen to be deafening in his silence about his disgust and so forth to the behavior, then I would be writing the same stuff.

Correct; hence me saying the Muslims need to get on the front foot and force the ratings-crazy news services to do something for the correct reasons for a change.

 

Here he is; my old mate; the 1000 yard sniper.

Good one, bloke.

See post no; 67.

Correct.

We are putting suggestions forward as to how the problem of getting rid of these fools (other than air strikes) might solve the problem.

Maybe you can put down the rifle and offer a few yourself. Won't do any good probably, but you never know; it's a bit of discussion that might filter through to the relevant folks who can make a difference - unlike us slobs sitting here on our keyboards talking rubbish.

 

Originally quoted by Obama:

I'm a Christian by choice. My family didn't—frankly, they weren't folks who went to church every week. And my mother was one of the most spiritual people I knew, but she didn't raise me in the church.

So I came to my Christian faith later in life, and it was because the precepts of Jesus Christ spoke to me in terms of the kind of life that I would want to lead—being my brothers' and sisters' keeper, treating others as they would treat me.

And I think also understanding that Jesus Christ dying for my sins spoke to the humility we all have to have as human beings, that we're sinful and we're flawed and we make mistakes, and that we achieve salvation through the grace of God. But what we can do, as flawed as we are, is still see God in other people and do our best to help them find their own grace.

That's what I strive to do. That's what I pray to do every day. I think my public service is part of that effort to express my Christian faith.

 

Noted and already apologised for being wrong about that....post 67.

Anyone else wanna sink one in?

Whilst I agree mostly with what he says here, I also think there comes a time when praying is really just not gunna be enough, somehow.

 

Agree on this part - never been one to ask my imaginary friends for help.