Paris

Just a moment to share how lucky I feel to be alive. My deepest condolences to family and friends caught up in the latest unnecessary pointless violence.

Paris attacks: More than 120 killed at Bataclan and restaurants - BBC News

 

Puts things in perspective ... but what absolute cowards to attack such soft targets

 

I am seriously opposed to the death penalty per se. My position is that I am not God and it is not my position to make a decision on who lives and who dies. I leave it a karma, society, and/or hopefully a Supreme being to deal with them appropriately.

However, when extremist groups like to pretend that they are God and think that they can make decisions as evil and disgusting as what happened in Paris today.......I am happy to act likewise.......and hope they suffer the same fate.

 

Really sad about what is happening.

 

Very sad. The things some humans are capable of is truly horrible. Very lucky to have some distance from it all in this country.

I don't think there is any real solution to it though. Even our closest living relatives in the animal kingdom, Chimpanzees, kill each other at the same per capita rate as humans.

Unfortunately it seems like it's in the DNA of our species to be capable of so much messed up horrible stuff.

 

Yeah..unfortunately I don't think there is a lasting solution to any form of terrorism (hope I'm wrong) . At best, it can be contained and that's what governments worldwide are trying to do.

 

Abolish religion. If people weren't arguing about whose imaginary friend was best, the world would be better.

 

Humans would just find something else to fight about.

 

@AndrewTDP I agree! We have always found reasons to fight each other and if there wasn't one, we just made them up...

 

True that

Is only going to get worse before it gets better... Or turns into another form of war.

It's no longer trench warfare, this is the new war, and civilians and livelihoods are the targets now

 

Human beings have such a long way to go to wake up and realise that we are not actually disconnected and hurting one person hurts humanity as a whole.

This was a very sad and devastating news to wake up to this morning.

 

Two things that cause conflict -

1. Religion
2. Territory

 

#2 is usually because of #1 though isn't it? E.g. Israel stuff?

 

The underlining premise of most religions are the same. God is the same. They're arguing about prophets or no prophets or small religious differences of opinion.

What is happening in the Middle East is about extremist views that doesn't reflect the majority who live there or elsewhere.

 

Some conflicts are. But some are pure territory plays.

 

Big difference though between Islam and say christianity. Quran was written at a time of war, New testament was written at a time of peace. Youve got one role model who was a hippy and one that was a warlord. So its a lot easier for extremist muslims to find text that agrees with their violent attitudes. Because it was written in a time of war the Quran blatantly promotoes violence just like the old testament... but theres nothing to balance it out.

"The recompense of those who fight Allah and His messenger, and seek to make corruption in the land, is that they be killed or crucified or that their hands and feet be cut off from alternate sides or that they be banished from the land; that is their disgrace in this world and in the Hereafter they will have a great torment." (Qur'an 5:33)

Big unit known as The Bulldozer is feared for a reason

"He said IS made a show out of torturing him. The show would turn bloody and change his life forever when The Bulldozer moved in.

“They gathered the people, they tied down my hand and my leg, they put my hand on a wooden block and cut it off with a butcher’s knife,” Omar told Channel 4.

“Then they cut off my foot and put them both in front of me for me to see.”

Months later, hobbling around his home with bandages covering the ends of his limbs, Omar says he has lost all hope.

“I have given up on life.”


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I dont agree with any religion. But I do find it a bit much when people try to say the violent attitudes of these people has nothing to do with their religion. If a military commander ordered his soldiers to cut off the hand and foot of an enemy soldier... and they did. Would everyone say "it had nothing to do with the orders. The commander is a peaceful commander and its only people that misinterpret his orders that do violence".

Just ridiculous. Call a spade a spade.

 

Yep; and both written back in the dinosaur sandpit.

Of course; it all comes back to folks having the intelligence (in this century) and objectivity to simply read it, and put it aside and live a decent life without the novels in question.

I mean; we can all read a book and blindly follow the book's messages without question.

Doesn't mean we should, or have to...but still we see sooo many folks doing it.

It's the 21st century, yes?

But then again; people still take up smoking, and taking ice, and herion in this century too, despite our knowledge.

 

Here is a website with 1300 quotes from the bible describing or instructing violence.

Cruelty and Violence

There is no place for either book in the 21st century.

For want of a label, I am somewhere between an atheist and a humanist. The latter is the hardest to maintain 'faith' in.

I was at the Louvre with my wife and kids 6 months ago, as have been countless others. That makes this latest attack personal

(But makes the killing in Lebanon and Syria no less tragic, just less personal).

The moderate Muslims need to raise their voices in opposition, or we have an even bigger problem.

 

How does all this stop. How is the "war" won?

 

For something like ISIS? The little people have to rise up from within.