Order of trades for kitchen and bathroom reno

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  1. Ian87

    Ian87 Well-Known Member

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    Hi folks looking at renovating our ppor not sure whether to hire a company that does end to end service but charges you a good bit extra or to jeopardise our marriage and try and project manage it ourselves.

    What would be the order of trades. I don’t think we plan on changing much position wise.

    All tips and ideas welcome, this is our first reno and it is already proving confusing.

    Thanks
     
  2. The Y-man

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    When we got a kitchen done, we bought the stuff at a warehouse outlet, who suggested a delivery company and a tradie who could install it (we asked them the same thing you did).

    The delivery company delivered the cupboards etc, the tradie came along - he organised a plumber when it was the plumber's turn (splashbacks, water pipes and gas stove)

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    Id say bathroom first.
     
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    We have been renovating an entire house ourselves doing work either ourselves or getting trades in for specific jobs. Doing it this way is a slow process, predominantly as getting quotes is tougher than it sounds (trades not wanting to quote, not turning up to quote, not delivering quotes after a site visit; we have a quote conversion rate of about 4:1).

    For the kitchen we did up the laundry first which became our kitchen for a few months which was great to have something to wash up in. For order for kitchen trades, get a sparkie and plumber out first to disconnect everything, do the demo, a cabinetmaker for cabinet install (2-3 days), if you go with a stone benchtop they need to measure and have a lead time. Get your sparkie back to connect the oven, followed by benchtop install, tiles and plumbing. All up this could be 3 weeks minimum if done yourself. For bathrooms, the process is much more complex and painful.
     
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    The more you can do yourself, the more money you save. If you haven't got the skills to install it yourself, project managing it isn't really that hard. Going with an all-in-one company can be extremely expensive.

    Many years ago, we did the kitchen in our PPOR. Hubby is a sparky by trade, so we only needed a plumber, and a stonemason to cut the granite, as he could do everything else. Bought from a cheap warehouse place. Looked amazing! Total cost about $3500.

    BIL, at the same time wanted to do his kitchen, but went with Nobby's Kitchens. He couldn't afford a full kitchen, so he got them to install a pantry and a couple of additional cupboards in his existing 70's kitchen. Looked like a dogs breakfast! Total cost about $5k. To do the full kitchen with Laminate benches was going to be over $10k.
     
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    Are you privyto share details of this warehouse place Skater, looking for kitchen quotes as well. Thanks
    QUOTE="skater, post: 891952, member: 21"]The more you can do yourself, the more money you save. If you haven't got the skills to install it yourself, project managing it isn't really that hard. Going with an all-in-one company can be extremely expensive.

    Many years ago, we did the kitchen in our PPOR. Hubby is a sparky by trade, so we only needed a plumber, and a stonemason to cut the granite, as he could do everything else. Bought from a cheap warehouse place. Looked amazing! Total cost about $3500.

    BIL, at the same time wanted to do his kitchen, but went with Nobby's Kitchens. He couldn't afford a full kitchen, so he got them to install a pantry and a couple of additional cupboards in his existing 70's kitchen. Looked like a dogs breakfast! Total cost about $5k. To do the full kitchen with Laminate benches was going to be over $10k.[/QUOTE]
     
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    [/QUOTE]
    That place isn't around anymore, but you could try Kitchens Under $2K in Blacktown. https://www.google.com/search?gs_ss...i512j0i512.6114j0j15&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
     
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    Wow. Those are really cheap packages. I was curious so I had to have a look!. Amazing value for money![/QUOTE]
    If I've told you once, I've told you a thousand times. I can always sniff out a bargain.:D:p

    I wouldn't recommend it for your higher end places though, but perfect for the cheaper end of the spectrum. :cool:
     
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    Haha yeah of course. But I'd love to put that kitchen in a high end suburb and watch buyers reactions:D
     
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    Early next year I am planning to completely renovate the downstairs 3rd bathroom [over 40 yrs old] and I know I am going to be paying around $20,000 for a bathroom company to do the job. I wish I had some of the resources or family members that some of you have to do the job ... but alas! some of us have to use bathroom specialists ... :(
     
  12. wylie

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    We had our downstairs bathroom done by a builder we met through our recent DA. He did it on the side, under his own company name, invoiced, GST etc all above board.

    It cost us $11k and I reckon of we got in a specialist bathroom company, we would have paid $20k.

    Perhaps look for a small scale builder?
     
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    Now that's something I never thought of ... thanks :D

    PS how long did it take to complete? did he do it when he had time between other jobs, son says he is leaving home if it takes more than 2 weeks ... :rolleyes:
     
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    No matter what contractor you engage, please keep the final payment withold until the remove the skip bin from your property and clean the place. Put this one in the writing and also the final amount should be double the amount you might pay the bin company plus cleaning not just what the bin company required for the size of the bin. this way contractor will do all cleaning and remove the bin without delay or you can remove the bin by paying the bin company... my lesson learnt.
     
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    He was working for another big builder doing carpentry work I think, but fit our job in and had it done over about a week. He had some flexibility with his employer.

    He's also done some work for our son, installing French doors and didn't have time to build some stairs he wants done, but will come back to do that. There is no urgency, so our son is happy to wait.

    We will probably get him to do our kitchen but that isn't urgent. We will probably ask him to wait until he knows he has time to get it built and installed without us living without a kitchen for more than a week.
     
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    That one comes standard with a laminate benchtop. Previous ones I've used had a stone benchtop. Anyway.....put the laminate benchtop into the last one we sold, and it's high gloss. When I looked at the ad from the Real Estate Agent I had to get him to remove 'stone benchtop' from the ad copy, because he couldn't tell the difference due to the finish.
     
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