No Jab, No Work?

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Who should decide if you need to be vaccinated for work?

  1. Employer

  2. Employee

  3. Medical exemption

  4. Workplace committee

  5. Government decree

  6. I WFH or don't interact with colleagues/public

  7. No jab/Frequent testing

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  1. Gestalt

    Gestalt Well-Known Member

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    Of course not. I carefully curate my research from trustworthy sources like YouTube videos, Facebook memes and pamphlets stuffed in my mailbox.

    Free your minds sheeple!

    On an unrelated note -

    https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/amp...protesters-storm-bbc-hq-years-after-moved-out
     
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  2. Scott No Mates

    Scott No Mates Well-Known Member

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    These scientists are the ones paid by the purveyors of their products ie not independent science (funded by govt/research companies/unis etc).

    Almost as good as taking recommendations from ACA infomercials etc.
     
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  3. wylie

    wylie Moderator Staff Member

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    I'll trust the people who've been making vaccines for many years.

    If you want to listen to a fracking scientist about Covid, go right ahead.
     
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  4. Lizzie

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    I trust the scientists who don't have a vested interest in misleading for the sake of promoting their marketing division
     
  5. JasonC

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    Looking at this from a consumer perspective do you think you should have the right to request the vaccination status of someone delivering a service?

    Ie. I only want my hair cut by a vaccinated hair dresser? I only want a vaccinated plumber working in house?

    Or in the case of amateur sport - does a player have a right to know the vaccination status of opposition players that they may be exposed to? If so can an association mandate that all players are vaccinated before they can register?
     
  6. boganfromlogan

    boganfromlogan Well-Known Member

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    When many millions have had vacc u can choose to trust the science OR use ur common sense.

    It's been fact checked.

    What you think is irrelevant
     
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  7. pattoman

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    Those scientists were also against the scientific majority. So if you were actually listening to scientists you wouldn't have been listening to them.
     
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  8. pattoman

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    Yes, sounds good to me! In fact as a consumer, you already have the right to request. Of course the business doesn't have the obligation to respond to your request, but then you are 100% free to take your business elsewhere. If more people start doing this, it would be great and speed up vaccine uptakes.
     
  9. Firefly99

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    This doesn’t even make sense. There’s no such thing as a Coca Cola or a Big Oil scientist - what uni do you do to to get a Coca Cola Science degree.
    Scientists who work in those industries are under no illusion that the industries have their problems and they decide to work with the companies to improve things as it achieves a lot more than complaining about said industries on the internet.
     
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  10. Casteller

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    Cousin is a truck driver in northern NSW & has just been told he has to be vaccinated to keep his job. He's not too happy about it.
     
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    If you are an Austpost or Startrack (both Govco owned) worker and an anti vaxer you would have to be worried huh !
     
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  12. Ruby Tuesday

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    Yes we do, there were 370 operating in Australia last year there would be more now. Mostly Komatsu and Caterpillar .
     
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    Ultimately Your employer will from your life insurance associated with your superannuation. Will you pay for all the death and illness you cause by spreading a high viral load ? a much more likely scenario.
     
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    An employer had to consider wh&s first and foremost ... protecting their staff from health and safety issues
     
  16. geoffw

    geoffw Moderator Staff Member

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    The vaccination does not stop people getting Covid. It cuts down substantially the chances of getting seriously ill or dying - but it doesn't eliminate this happening. We were told early on that the vaccines were something like 90% effective.

    Perhaps, instead of scouring for every mention of vaccinated people getting Covid, you may be better off looking at things like this.
    Nearly all COVID deaths in US are now among unvaccinated
     
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  17. Tillie

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    It is no different than AusPost and Startrak zero tolerance to alcohol and drugs. Legally in many states you can still drive, if you have small amounts alcohol in your blood, but AusPost and Startrak the limit is zero. It is your choice either accept their rules and have /keep a job with them or alternatively leave.
     
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    My cousin has booked in to get vaccinated tomorrow, nothing like a bit of carrot and stick.
     
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  19. Lizzie

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    Hubby previous work .. considered essential to keep the electricity running ... meant they had to line up every year for the flu jab. No exceptions. It was part of their employment contract.

    Suspect covid will be the same

    nb: they also had a zero alcohol and drug tolerance ... had to blow in a straw every morning when clocking on and subject to random drug tests. No biggie. It simply was the rules when dealing with dangerous equipment
     
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  20. Gockie

    Gockie Life is good ☺️ Premium Member

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    I was a scorer at a world beach volleyball event. A few referrees were randomly breathalysed each day (luck of the draw) and a couple of "random" (ok, maybe not random) lines people and scorers too.... I passed my breathalyser test on the day I undertook it. :)

    I didn't know about this requirement before I undertook the job.