No empathy for Housing Dept tenants

unless your elderly or a refugee or disabled,I really have no sympsthy for housing department tenants .
Anyone seen the horroundous bashing of the 78yo ladys face by a teenage thug yesterday in Toongabbie would agree mixing young people in with elderly is not the way to go .

It seems this thug 18yo and his bogan girlfriend have a unit next door to the victim.

Why , why on earth is a fit 18yo and his girlfriend guven a housing dept house ?

Get off your ass and work !

 

I do know that sometimes people fall on hard times - but I'm sort of like yourself. I think there should be a time limit on anyone who is not disabled or elderly.

None of this 30 years stuff. Shud be a limit of 5 years to get your act together and then you're moved on to make room for someone else

 

But let's say they still don't manage to get a job? Would we be OK with people living in parks and on the street in shanty towns?

Would we be OK with them starving or turning to crime? It's hard to know which would be worse the problem or the solution...

I believe that a lot of the issues are addiction and substance abuse related. Mental illness too and these would all be considered a disability.

 

Safety net, not a hammock.

 

Doesn't change the difficulty of this 'wicked problem'

 

Agree.

Deserving people languish on waiting lists for decades. Share the limited housing around to give more people a chance to make a go of things.

And none of this lifetime tenancy. A little old lady living alone in a three bedroom govt house just so she can have room if her grandkids want to stay (sob story on tv) is just plain wrong while families with children are camping out or living in cars. Single people should move on to smaller govt units to make houses available to families.
Marg

 

What happened inToongabbie is terrible and the behaviour of those involved is unforgivable and hopefully they will be dealt with appopriately by the legal system.

The housing issue is a different and more complex problem. There is a shortage of affordable housing. I agree Public housing should only be for the most needy, but what affordable housing is there for those on low incomes. If you turf them out of public housing where will they go? And don't forget they are not going to have a 'rental history' apart from DoH. Will you rent to them?

I work in an area where I see a lot of homelessness. Also homelessness isn't just the people living on the streets - this is a small minority. Most are couchsurfing, temporarily staying with friends, family or aqaintances or living in hotel/motel rooms, caravans, tents or even in hospital beds.

Can you imagine being able to "look for a job" if you don't know where you will be able to live next week after your temporary accomodation runs out? And you have used up all your funds on an riding the train/bus to check out share houses/rooms for rent in dodgy doss houses?

If your focus is a roof over your head how much attention will you give to addressing your physical or mental health issues?

If you are fleeing a violent relationship with your children and sleeping in your car - how hard is it going to be to get your kids to school?

If there were more options for affordable housing there would be a decreased need for other social services, and an improvement in physical and mental health and wellbeing of a substantial group of people. That has surely got to be worth investing in.

 

All good reasons to ensure the limited public housing is utilised to the full.

And as to "where would they go"? Same places as those, equally needy, languishing on the waiting lists for decades.
Marg

 

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The more things change the more they stay the same...
Seems a bit like the mental health issues Miss Wran and her similarly ill mate were suffering from when they murdered Daniel Mc Nulty...
Don't worry for this 18 year old though, surely this one will be out in less than 3 years
Our Poor, SIck, Society..

 

So was the state government right in selling off public housing in The Rocks including the Sirius building to divert funds to a social housing programme?

 

Lizzie, you must have been listening to me..

 

ive never been homeless or known anyone, but Iunderstand that people run into tough financial times,

whether it be gambling, drugs, loss of job, health issues, health issues of a family member or pure bad luck,

and I think people deserve a second chance or assistance,

frankly i would be grateful if I had no where to go or some support,

why I would damage a property or jeopardise something that was given to me on the cheap I have no idea,

maybe if they got kicked out they would change their tune?

however im pretty sure their thought process is totally differnet from mine

 

First I don't understand how an 18yo gets public housing before those who have been waiting years. And second how does ones life get "bad" enough to require, and awarded, public housing by age 18?

The mind boggles.

 

Straya...land of entitlement

I've actually been involved in designing quite a few NSW housing projects and it amazes me how little regard some of the tenants have for the newly built units. One job comes to mind when not even 6 months after handover the entire project had to be reevaluated to determine whether it would be more cost effective to knock down the new development rather than fix up the damage that had been caused by the tenants. You get handed a brand new unit complex (which has been designed to be robust in the first place) and you purposely set out to destroy it. No doubt the tenants are moved onto another development and the cycle continues

 

@RenegadeDom - but who is to blame? Was it the project brief? Design brief? Specifications? Budget? Construction methodology? Tenant selection?

What has been done to witch hunt the culprits?

 

I guess there is always the option to build a blockwork cell type development with stainless steel fixtures and minimal windows, but somehow don't think that will fly. End of the day it comes down to who occupies these places and if they have enough respect to not destroy what they have been given.

I'm not sure what happens to these tenants after the fact, I doubt they would be persecuted though, the effort to chase damages would likely result in no result and just further added cost.

 

@RenegadeDom I worked on several Dept Housing "re-development" (some rebuilt, some re-fit) projects in the late 90's.
Macquarie Fields, Bidwell, Cranebrook to name a few.
I saw the same things happen, and so much waste of money due to abuse.
3rd generation welfare, no jobs, no education, no hope

 

Absolutely.

Some of those properties occupied by a single person went for $1m plus ( if reports accurate).

And some sitting tenants complaining because we're going to lose "their" panoramic harbour views!!
Marg

 

Easy. And yes, I've seen it happen.

1. Get on drugs or alcohol
2. Commit enough petty crimes to be eventually jailed.
3. On parole release become officially homeless.
4. Priority housing. If unlucky it may take 2-3 months.

Bingo!! A low cost home for life....
Marg