WA New tenant being unreasonable?

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  1. Sackie

    Sackie Well-Known Member

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    If these guys have rented before I can't imagine they have no negative history. The the pm must have screwed up in the screening process or it wasn't disclosed during their checks for some reason.

    I tell my PMs if there is even any hint of mischief they find on prospective tenants, to just shred their application and I don't need to know.
     
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    I can empathize with your tenants to some degree. I am not saying they have taken the right action here, but Indian cooking does require special cookware, and unless you have ever been in a position where where you have had to use induction cooktop, you would never know to look for it, or ask about it. They will certainly do this moving forward.

    Anyway, I can see a solution- why don’t you just purchase the items they require? You offered this in the first place. Obviously, they have had a think about it too, which why they have added the extra items on the list.
     
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    Give 1, next time their toilet roll holder is pointing the wrong way, they will expect/demand 10!
     
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    With all due respect, this is an assumption and may not happen.
    Taking the least resistant pathway is a no brainer to me.
     
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  5. Dan Wood

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    Sorry but the OP has already bent over backwards, there's no one in hell I would offer anything else to these ungrateful people.

    It's not the path of least resistance, anymore, fact is they were offered a brand new cooking set that is compatible already.

    This is the tenants responsibility, not the landlord's. And the LL has tried to rectify the issue.

    I'd be seeing them in the magistrate to prove a point.
     
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    Offered an Ikea cooking set! I have looked at the Ikea pots in the past and they have only a basic range.

    If the tenants have a pressure cooker, wok, griddle, casserole pot, stockpot, 3 sizes of regular saucepans, 2-3 different size saucepans, milk saucepan, etc (as most people would have) then a limited set from Ikea (two pots and a frying pan?) is not a good substitute.
     
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  7. Dan Wood

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    Oh get off your high horse, that's absolutely ridiculous, if you had all that you should be aware to ask what kind of stove it is.

    The LL is under no obligation to give you any cooking utensils for your screw up.
     
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    That’s a pretty normal number and selection of pots ...
     
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    I think the idea with offering the Ikea set is just so they have something to use to prepare meals to offset their claims about needing to get takeaway every day. If they need specialised equipment they can buy this as they go along. It's not like they're going to use it all on the same day anyway. I would find it hard to believe that a reasonable tribunal member would require a landlord to provide more than this
     
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    I also think it has to do with that it appears to me that society has become far more entitled
     
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    In what way are you saying that the tenant screwed up?
     
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    I believe the contention here is that the tenant failed to check the cokker type before signing the dotted line.

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  13. Dan Wood

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    Big or small cokker? :p
     
  14. Dan Wood

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    I think I've said it throughout this post.

    Failure to check or ask about the cook top before signing the lease.
     
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    You wood know.
     
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    I suspect plenty of people are cooking Indian food on induction....
     
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    No it may not happen, they will be demanding a bidet. For this type of tenant from a place where there is a sub group of people who think they are superior and grown up not knowing anything except how to order servants around to get anything done, giving into them will make them more determined next time if something isn't to their liking. It feeds their perceptions of their importance and entitlement and people being their to serve them.
     
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    Just to offer a differing POV...
    If you install a special, newish(?) type of cooker in your IP that many people don't yet know about that looks IDENTICAL to a normal cooker and then don't disclose this info to prospective tenants, you kind of put yourself in a situation where this very problem may happen!

    I've never heard of this type of cooker before and if I were a renter I'd have no idea to ask about it because I don't know about it! Honestly, I'd expect the REA to tell me about it in the inspection. If it's not the norm, they I'd like to know about it. Personally, I think the REA is most at fault. As the professional, they should know all the variables.

    I guess my question for the LL is.. if you were to get rid of these tenants and look for new ones, would you advise the REA to inform prospective tenants that the cooker is inductive?

    Having just read about induction cooking now, it seems it's quite a bit different. I definitely think it's something the REA should have disclosed to a prospective renter. Doesn't matter if it's not the law, it just makes things easier and run smoother.

    In saying all that, it sounds like the tenants are being very difficult and way OTT. Surely they could have explained their particular situation to you in a nice and calm way before exploding and going for the court angle. Sounds like winning is very important to them.

    I hope this ends sooner rather than later for the LL. I really think your REA has put you in this particular situation though.
     
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    D'oh!!

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  20. wylie

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    Induction cooking has been around since 1900 (I just learned that tonight). But it has been around for quite a few years and I'm amazed you've not ever heard of it.

    I would have guessed that any owner thinking of putting in a new kitchen would decide between gas/electric/induction.

    Any renter who has a particular desire to use their very expensive cookware SURELY would check whether the hob is gas or electric.

    I've always used gas but our sons have induction, our developer friend puts in induction, it's hardly "rare" these days.

    When we were having trouble getting gas organised for a recent renovation, we decided to ditch gas altogether and put in induction. Our tenants had no problems, no questions.

    But now, having read this thread, even disregarding that these people seem quite entitled (and I've had tenants just like them), I'd suggest there is more than the cooktop making them want to break the lease.

    And I'll make sure we spell it out before any tenants rent any place where we've got induction, just in case I find another princess who decides this is a problem, even if I offer a set of pans.
     
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