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  1. EN710

    EN710 Well-Known Member

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    I often have muscle tightness around the upper back and neck, and sometimes (like today) it causes pretty annoying headache enough to make me nauseous for the entire day.

    Anyone have similar issue? How do you manage it?
    Looking around others my age and older than me don't seem to have this issue, I wonder if it's not normal :oops:
     
  2. Jamie Moore

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    Is it posture related?

    I had the same pain - I thought it was from exercise/being active - ends up my monitor was a tad too low and my sitting posture was bad. Two trips to the physio - a few exercises/tips and now I'm sorted.

    Cheers

    Jamie
     
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    Parts of it is posture yes. Usually swimming helps, along with massage roller, massage ball, and spikes matt. But this week the neck has been killing me nothing really work well.

    We usually go to osteopath every now and then but our usual guy has moved back to Melbourne :(
     
  4. Ace in the Hole

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    Do you do any exercise?
     
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    Swimming 2-3 times a week and body boarding once a week. Admittedly sometimes neck get worse after body board o_O
     
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    Sounds like my issue as well. Neck/shoulders are really tight. Lower back aches a well. I regularly exercise. I do sit in front of a computer all day, and then at night it's PChat stalking. I have regular trips to the physio. I also bought some magnesium oils, preferably put on after shower and apply a heat pack too.
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    Similar, I have desk job.
    Does the magnesium oil work?
     
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    It helps, I do have magnesium deficiency, I get cramps easily. The magnesium oils also help with mild headaches. I bought the bundle, so have been using it for months now.
     
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    Have lower back pain, doctor suggested hydrotherapy, I love it! first session last week and am looking forward to my two sessions a week.
    Needed a referral from my doctor and my physiotherapist will supervise for two sessions.
     
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    Maybe try some massage, and also some resistance training to strengthen your muscles.
     
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    Likes bubbly water? :D
    I guess I should find new therapist :(
     
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    Swimming is great - long term something changes.
    Yoga is fantastic.
    Extreme meditation (vipassana) will help reduce your physical reaction which is causing the tension and also help you to not react so much to the pain itself.
    We all react in our own special ways and I guess this is your brand of self sabotage. :p
     
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    What is your core strength like?

    Most posture related issues stem back to a lack of core strength (or just simple abuse from poor working ergonomics).

    I have had ongoing issues since I was at uni with ribs which get out of alignment (posture related) causing the muscles in the back to tighten to compensate - which in turn causes the neck muscles to tighten - which can at times cause nausea and a migraine (feels like someone jabbing icepicks in the top of my skull and into my right eye).

    After many years of useless treatment, I found a physio who actually understood the root cause of these things and helped me get to the point where I could largely self-manage. Unfortunately he was so good he got headhunted by the GWS Giants to be their head physio.

    I only take aspirin for pain relief due to muscle tightness when I feel a muscle related headache developing (avoid codeine). If I don't treat the headache early enough, that's when the migraines can start.

    I can recommend a great physio practice in Drummoyne who deal with spine and pelvis related issues if you are looking for some assistance, guidance or treatment.

    Other recommendations: avoid laptops, or if you must use one, use an external screen, keyboard and mouse.

    Using a laptop keyboard and trackpad causes your shoulders to tense - they should be neutral and relaxed. Looking down at a laptop screen is not a neutral position for your neck. Make sure you have a good chair, your keyboard is at the correct height to keep your shoulders in a neutral position (and not too far away!) and that your monitor is at the correct height to keep your neck in a neutral position.

    Height adjustable desks can help immensely - being able to change your working position keeps your joints from seizing up. Sitting in a static position for extended periods is one of the worst things you can do. I don't recommend fixed standing desks - you want to be able to swap between sitting and standing. And if working standing up - make sure you get a good anti-fatigue mat to stand on, else your feet and ankles will kill you.
     
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    Gotta agree with Simon... You need to find the cause, treat that and it will go away. There's no point in treating only the symptoms.
    Good luck.
     
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    @Simon Hampel I'm not sure how good my core strength is... what's normal?

    We use tablet with height adjustable stand and monitor screen and desk at work (I.e. Can be made into standing desk) so might need to use it more. While I tried to be aware of my posture sometimes it ended up somewhere not ideal after a long sitting period.

    A contact to a physio might be good, yes please :)
     
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    Get an ergonomic assessment at work, if you can, to be sure that your desk and chair are set up properly.
     
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    I have a jaw complaint that can be exacerbated by poor posture and stiffness in the neck. My jaw is out of alignment and this can lead to quite bad migraine-like headaches in the temple area. These headaches can last 12-24+ hours and are debilitating enough to significantly impact sleep.

    Regular general exercise helps. The Endorphins help reduce stress. I tend to get the bad headaches during times when I am not regularly exercising.

    Many people have undiagnosed jaw issues which can be a cause of bad headaches. The condition is called TMJD. Do your jaw joints click and clunk or get tight? Initially thought the pain was associated with wisdom teeth and had all 4 out 16 years ago. Eventually a cat scan confirmed the TMJ problem.
     
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    A tense jaw ( and jaw 'clicking') can also be caused by tooth grinding or jaw clenching. Quite common while people sleep. Wearing a plate at night (one specially made by a dentist) is helpful.

    Myotherapy can help by massaging the jaw muscles (can be painful, but works).
     
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  20. Simon Hampel

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    Do you have an external keyboard/mouse?