NBN permission request

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  1. S0805

    S0805 Well-Known Member

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    Hi All,

    Needs some advise on if to have NBN installed in Unit we've (IP) or not. Looking at the website and agent advise there will be a box that needs to be installed inside the unit (technician will figure out the best location). I've been told it will be on internal wall.

    I don't mind tenant install this but need to consider if any negatives for this. has anyone had experience with that. I am not sure where they going to put the box? I prefer not be an eyesore for sure. also, where does tenancy law sits for this. what happens if tenant leaves are they going to take this uni with them, leaving gap in wall or something.

    property is in VIC.

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  2. D.T.

    D.T. Specialist Property Manager Business Member

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    The boxes aren't very big. I'm always happy to allow them, properties with NBN get better rental demand.

    It stays when tenants leave. It belongs to the property, not them.
     
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    Been through this a few times. Sometimes it might be a good idea to liaise with the tenant to make sure the internal box is in a good place. Some of the installers tend to go for the easiest installs too, which isn't always the best place.

    That said, the box is quite small and non-intrusive anyway.
     
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    Thanks. Is this something I need to advise tenant or is it given that it will stay with property. Not entirely sure if there is cost to the box?
     
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    thanks. I'll make sure if the option given I ask tenant to put the box away from lounge room. somewhere hidden possibly..
     
  6. WestOz

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    The "boxes" and installation are supplied foc compliments of us tax payers, like the old copper phone line/point they stay at the property forever.

    Amusing more than only one lan connection is required whats needed then, as a purchase, is a wifi router, and a service provider, I recommend staying well clear of Tel$tra.

    As Bum said the installers will take the easy option, did it with one of my places :mad:
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    My recommendation is to get a power point put in the top of the linen (or any suitable) cupboard, have them install it up there out of sight, nice & tidy. You can then also add the wifi router in there, run the lan cables up through the ceiling to any part of the place you want lan points.

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  7. D.T.

    D.T. Specialist Property Manager Business Member

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    Yes they need to be near a power point to operate.

    Most also have a backup battery inside to keep going when power is out. There's a bit of a debate as to whether this is landlord or tenant responsibility. In my view its a consumable and therefore tenants. Makes an awful noise :)
     
  8. Marg4000

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    If you ask the tenant to pay, they will obviously install it as cheaply as possible which may mean an inconvenient or unsightly location.
    If you pay, you can choose where it goes.
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  9. WestOz

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    What does?

    Pay for what? NBN components and install are foc.
    Only cost to users are isp (required for it to work) and any additional/desired equipment, like a wifi router or additional lan points.

    Once NBN is available in the area there's a limited time before the copper line (unless not fibre to premises) will be disconnected to all premises in the area, so for home base communications getting NBN equipment installed is kinda required, unless happy to just use a mobile phone.
     
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  10. Paul@PAS

    Paul@PAS Tax, Accounting + SMSF + All things Property Tax Business Plus Member

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    FTTN (to the node) is the current deal and there are no power backups - Cost cutting !! FTTN has its own low voltage liek the old phone system and so battery backup is incompatible. The early days was FTTH (to the home)...Now its a node only and the "last mile" runs across same lines as ADSL hence its slow until they turn off the old system. Only then will 100mbps speed be available. FTTN is also very much a case of self install as it just plugs into a phone socket. In limited cases they will need access to the home IFD the node connection fails it connection on the assigned cutover date. Most homes with multiple sockets require a modification as multi sockets aren't compatible in many (not all) cases - This is a typical reason to access the home

    At present ONLY the property owner / strata etc can arrange a install for a building and a single provider must be chosen. Some providers have policies that they dont do multi dwelling properties. Rewiring buildings is likely to meet NBN requirements.

    Register your building or apartment block | nbn - Australia's new broadband network
     
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    If you don't have the NBN wallbox installed, you will have to pay to get one installed sometime in the future, the tenant will never be able to have wired internet or a phone connection until YOU install one.

    Legally - refer to Schedule 3 of the Telecommunications Act 1997. You can cause the carrier to serve a Land Access and Activity Notice, provide you with drawings and other reasonable requirements to best practice. Under S42 you may be compensated if you suffer damage or financial loss.

    Not quite - carriers would like to make you believe this however NBN provides the connection to the building (and to each unit if FTTP). You do not want to commit the building to a single carrier - so be very wary of any attempt by the BC or a Carrier to have this approach.
     
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    I am looking at NBN ,what makes an awful noise?
     
  13. Jess Peletier

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    The incessant beeping when the battery dies. :) It's about $35 for a new one.
     
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    Thanks for the heads up @Jess Peletier living in SA the power goes off alot ,may need a spare battery.:)
     
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